1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,380 foreign 2 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:32,830 [Music] 3 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:35,450 Air Forces has announced that a flying 4 00:00:40,190 --> 00:00:37,680 disc has been found and is now in the 5 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:40,200 possession of the army 6 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:46,910 I occasionally think how quickly our 7 00:00:53,389 --> 00:00:50,760 differences worldwide would vanish if we 8 00:00:54,390 --> 00:00:53,399 were facing an alien threat from outside 9 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:54,400 this work 10 00:00:56,390 --> 00:00:56,190 [Music] 11 00:00:58,689 --> 00:00:56,400 [Applause] 12 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:58,699 [Music] 13 00:01:04,490 --> 00:01:01,620 this is Fade to Black with your host 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:04,500 Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio 15 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:05,170 Network 16 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:08,880 [Music] 17 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:12,540 all right good evening Fade to Black I'm 18 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:15,840 your host Jimmy church today is 19 00:01:22,429 --> 00:01:21,000 Wednesday March 29th and uh we've got a 20 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:22,439 great show tonight tonight Reuben 21 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:25,920 Langdon is back with us and tonight I 22 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,720 wanted to talk about uh eating 23 00:01:33,649 --> 00:01:30,240 Consciousness and his experiences and 24 00:01:37,249 --> 00:01:33,659 and his research he has been a part of 25 00:01:39,649 --> 00:01:37,259 this community for many many years but 26 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,659 he's also a stunt man that's right he's 27 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:42,000 an actor filmmaker he's a video game 28 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:43,040 Star 29 00:01:48,289 --> 00:01:46,200 and yes you've seen his work in Pirates 30 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:48,299 of the Caribbean Power Rangers series 31 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:51,180 and the highest grossing film of all 32 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:53,520 time Avatar where he was a stunt double 33 00:02:02,149 --> 00:01:57,840 for Jake Sully's alien Avatar and also 34 00:02:05,889 --> 00:02:02,159 uh for me it's it's Dante 35 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:05,899 that's right Dante and the Devil May Cry 36 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:09,239 franchise I played all five video games 37 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:12,180 and uh all five versions of that I think 38 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:14,520 there was five there maybe there was a 39 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:17,160 sixth and I've talked to Reuben about 40 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:18,900 that many times on the show we won't be 41 00:02:23,690 --> 00:02:21,780 jumping into uh Devil May Cry tonight 42 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:23,700 but uh we're gonna be talking about 43 00:02:31,010 --> 00:02:27,840 everything else and also uh well I'm 44 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,020 Gonna Save my opening Salvo I was just 45 00:02:36,410 --> 00:02:33,840 gonna make a comment but I'll I'll keep 46 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:36,420 that uh for a surprise uh for Reuben 47 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:38,040 Langdon there he is Reuben Langdon 48 00:02:45,369 --> 00:02:41,580 welcome see I told everybody he has a 49 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:45,379 great collection of knitted hats and 50 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:48,239 yeah I got a few yeah I got a few here 51 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:49,760 but we decided to go with this one today 52 00:02:54,350 --> 00:02:52,500 you didn't see it Jimmy it's it's great 53 00:02:56,270 --> 00:02:54,360 to see you and listen 54 00:02:59,089 --> 00:02:56,280 um I have been looking for a great 55 00:03:00,410 --> 00:02:59,099 clip-on you know because I you know I 56 00:03:02,410 --> 00:03:00,420 want you know where do you get your 57 00:03:04,369 --> 00:03:02,420 clip-ons 58 00:03:05,809 --> 00:03:04,379 handmade 59 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:05,819 um 60 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:08,400 no it's there it's just uh it's just a 61 00:03:12,729 --> 00:03:10,620 mess right now dude it's still snowing 62 00:03:16,490 --> 00:03:12,739 here in Big Bear can you believe it 63 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:16,500 it's crazy I was driving it is so cold 64 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:20,640 here in in Palmdale and uh and you know 65 00:03:25,630 --> 00:03:23,459 here's here's the the weird thing 66 00:03:29,630 --> 00:03:25,640 that most people don't realize yes 67 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:29,640 they've got I I think the last what did 68 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:32,640 I read snow summit's got like 75 feet of 69 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:34,620 snow right now right it's like an insane 70 00:03:39,309 --> 00:03:38,220 amount of snow and but most people don't 71 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:39,319 understand 72 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:43,200 from Big Bear this is the trippy thing 73 00:03:51,289 --> 00:03:48,140 you can ski in that 75 feet of snow 74 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:51,299 and drive off the back side of the 75 00:03:56,570 --> 00:03:54,000 mountain and in like 10 minutes roll 76 00:03:59,809 --> 00:03:56,580 right into the Mojave Desert it's like 77 00:04:04,070 --> 00:03:59,819 right there and then getting a left turn 78 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:04,080 and and you hit my house and it's it's a 79 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:06,720 strange thing to do because you're on 80 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:09,060 those um switchbacks right on the back 81 00:04:13,490 --> 00:04:10,560 half of the mountain from a big bear 82 00:04:16,129 --> 00:04:13,500 yeah right there on the edge and you see 83 00:04:18,409 --> 00:04:16,139 the ice you see the snow and you're 84 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:18,419 looking at that on on your left and you 85 00:04:24,170 --> 00:04:20,220 look to the right and it's the desert 86 00:04:28,129 --> 00:04:24,180 man it's it's the morocc salt dry lake 87 00:04:29,210 --> 00:04:28,139 bed it's it's it's it's surreal too I 88 00:04:31,550 --> 00:04:29,220 was just gonna say yeah it's a pretty 89 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:31,560 surreal going on those hikes and can't 90 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:33,060 wait till the weather warms up so we can 91 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:36,419 get back out and and reconnect with uh 92 00:04:40,969 --> 00:04:38,699 some really nice hikes around here yeah 93 00:04:44,090 --> 00:04:40,979 yeah it's great up there for the views 94 00:04:46,670 --> 00:04:44,100 yeah I remember once 95 00:04:48,770 --> 00:04:46,680 um and this is people really need to 96 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:48,780 listen to what I'm saying I leave Big 97 00:04:54,770 --> 00:04:50,280 Bear 98 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:54,780 snow ice cold freezing gloves scarf hat 99 00:05:00,409 --> 00:04:58,320 big down jacket right I'm in the car and 100 00:05:02,330 --> 00:05:00,419 I'm like man I gotta get gas come off 101 00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:02,340 the mountain I believe I guess 80 102 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:06,740 degrees I got my gloves on I'm just like 103 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:09,180 what you know you look at the mountain 104 00:05:13,969 --> 00:05:11,400 like that just doesn't make any sense 105 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:13,979 but that's the best part you know we're 106 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:17,759 six thousand feet 6 500 feet so 107 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:20,580 um that'll do it I guess it's such a 108 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:22,199 weird thing and that's why we live here 109 00:05:28,969 --> 00:05:25,740 in in California you get all of that and 110 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:28,979 keep driving you go surfing and we joke 111 00:05:33,050 --> 00:05:31,440 about that here but you can literally do 112 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:33,060 all of that in the same day you can 113 00:05:38,450 --> 00:05:35,580 build a snowman in the morning and you 114 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:38,460 know go Hang Ten in the afternoon it's 115 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:41,280 it's it's crazy so 116 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,160 um anyway uh I want to get straight to 117 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:46,320 it tonight uh very excited to have you 118 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:48,000 back on the show 119 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:49,560 um and this is where I'm gonna start 120 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:52,080 it's the 10th anniversary of the 121 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:55,460 citizens hearing yeah 122 00:06:01,370 --> 00:05:58,560 next month yeah we're almost there next 123 00:06:04,969 --> 00:06:01,380 month does it feel like it doesn't wow I 124 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:04,979 mean 10 years has passed I it's it flew 125 00:06:09,710 --> 00:06:07,560 by I can't believe how fast it flew by 126 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:09,720 but 127 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:13,740 um yeah it's uh we're we're now 128 00:06:17,090 --> 00:06:15,360 um in a post-disclosure world 129 00:06:20,570 --> 00:06:17,100 essentially 130 00:06:22,129 --> 00:06:20,580 I think about it a hundred percent and 131 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:22,139 when 132 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:24,840 um well tell everybody because I you 133 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:27,900 know I could sit here and and prop you 134 00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:31,080 up but uh tell you were you're the 135 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:32,580 producer behind that event tell 136 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:35,120 everybody about it and and and 137 00:06:44,809 --> 00:06:41,450 yeah well 138 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:44,819 I would say it's I'm a lot more educated 139 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:47,100 now on the subject than I was back then 140 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:49,740 I was very naive uh if you'd asked me to 141 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:52,319 do it again I don't know if I would that 142 00:06:58,670 --> 00:06:56,520 was uh I think my naiveness uh was the 143 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:58,680 Catalyst for me to continue to do it 144 00:07:02,210 --> 00:07:00,600 because I had no idea what kind of a 145 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:02,220 challenge it was gonna be I thought oh 146 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:05,220 yeah just have this do this event have 147 00:07:10,010 --> 00:07:07,680 the media uh cover it and we get 148 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:10,020 disclosure easy peasy 149 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:11,460 um 150 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:13,740 yeah 151 00:07:17,450 --> 00:07:15,020 right 152 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:17,460 you know that's you know here's the 153 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:19,020 thing with what you just said then we're 154 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,660 going to get back to it I I really it's 155 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:23,520 such a great story it's an amazing 156 00:07:32,330 --> 00:07:29,400 journey but the new people that are here 157 00:07:35,409 --> 00:07:32,340 and I love it that they are because of 158 00:07:39,050 --> 00:07:35,419 say ttsa or 159 00:07:40,909 --> 00:07:39,060 2017 or Lou Elizondo right and so 160 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,919 they're all you know they're they're 161 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:42,479 here oh this is going to be great 162 00:07:46,309 --> 00:07:44,819 Madness and it's gonna happen tomorrow 163 00:07:47,870 --> 00:07:46,319 this is what it's all about this is 164 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:47,880 going to be easy it's going to be easy 165 00:07:53,710 --> 00:07:49,979 this is this is not look look what's 166 00:07:57,490 --> 00:07:53,720 going on and and here we are now in 2023 167 00:08:02,749 --> 00:07:57,500 uh almost uh you know six years after 168 00:08:04,210 --> 00:08:02,759 that uh New York Times bombshell and uh 169 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:04,220 to hear we and 170 00:08:08,870 --> 00:08:06,660 everybody thought it was just gonna you 171 00:08:10,129 --> 00:08:08,880 know happen in in a couple of days it 172 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:10,139 didn't 173 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:12,479 I don't think it is I mean there's 174 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:15,060 you're talking about a um 175 00:08:22,249 --> 00:08:20,879 uh a just how it's not so cut cut and 176 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,259 dry you know it's not such a clear 177 00:08:26,689 --> 00:08:24,319 subject and depending who you talk to 178 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:26,699 everybody's got a different opinion on 179 00:08:33,230 --> 00:08:30,060 on what it is and who's gonna disclose 180 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:33,240 and how it's supposed to happen and it's 181 00:08:39,409 --> 00:08:35,240 just to the the 182 00:08:42,529 --> 00:08:39,419 water's still way too muddy for uh for 183 00:08:44,209 --> 00:08:42,539 it to happen in in a like overnight way 184 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:44,219 like it the way it's happening now is 185 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:46,740 just people are so sort of getting 186 00:08:51,290 --> 00:08:48,959 whatever version of disclosure that they 187 00:08:54,769 --> 00:08:51,300 need by following whoever you know 188 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:54,779 everybody's got their camps and um you 189 00:08:59,590 --> 00:08:56,040 know and it's happening it's happening 190 00:09:02,630 --> 00:08:59,600 and it's a very not so coherent but 191 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:02,640 semi-coherent kind of way uh obviously 192 00:09:08,269 --> 00:09:04,740 Fade to Black has a huge 193 00:09:12,110 --> 00:09:08,279 um uh you know hand in that 194 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:12,120 um and all your guests but uh the it's 195 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:14,640 it's interesting it's definitely we're 196 00:09:19,490 --> 00:09:16,140 definitely further than we were 10 years 197 00:09:21,889 --> 00:09:19,500 ago but it's still the water is maybe 198 00:09:24,110 --> 00:09:21,899 even more muddy now than it was before 199 00:09:27,009 --> 00:09:24,120 I don't know when 200 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:27,019 um when you think about it 201 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:32,640 uh the citizens hearing lined up the uh 202 00:09:38,810 --> 00:09:35,100 not only the most important but well 203 00:09:41,090 --> 00:09:38,820 spoken and certainly some of the uh when 204 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:41,100 we talk about experiencers or Witnesses 205 00:09:46,370 --> 00:09:43,740 you know the the the best of the best 206 00:09:48,889 --> 00:09:46,380 you've got lights camera action right 207 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:48,899 you've got the right location you've got 208 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:52,019 a a streaming platform you're you've got 209 00:09:58,370 --> 00:09:55,440 a documentary film right everything is 210 00:10:00,530 --> 00:09:58,380 in place the Press are invited 211 00:10:03,949 --> 00:10:00,540 um there was a lot of action behind it 212 00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:03,959 it was just a huge event everybody's 213 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:05,880 just sitting on the edge of their seats 214 00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:07,860 like I was 215 00:10:14,389 --> 00:10:11,160 um it was just huge and at that at that 216 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:14,399 time did you have any idea that it would 217 00:10:19,310 --> 00:10:16,500 turn out to be especially historically 218 00:10:21,050 --> 00:10:19,320 speaking as important as it turned out 219 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:21,060 to be 220 00:10:27,230 --> 00:10:25,440 well you I know I know you appreciate it 221 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:27,240 and I appreciate it and then you know 222 00:10:33,230 --> 00:10:30,120 the the several thousand people that saw 223 00:10:35,570 --> 00:10:33,240 it appreciate it and all it's done for 224 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,580 the the you know moving the topic 225 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:38,160 through the masses but when you really 226 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:41,519 look at the actual numbers uh because 227 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:44,279 you know for for years we were keeping 228 00:10:47,930 --> 00:10:46,079 it behind a paywall because we had an 229 00:10:51,230 --> 00:10:47,940 investor that we had promised to to pay 230 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:51,240 back uh the uh the investment and we 231 00:10:54,829 --> 00:10:52,860 tried to get deals with different 232 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:54,839 distribution companies nobody wanted it 233 00:11:00,290 --> 00:10:57,060 nobody could get it out we couldn't get 234 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:00,300 it out there and finally uh sort of at 235 00:11:03,829 --> 00:11:02,399 our last resort after we had exhausted 236 00:11:06,650 --> 00:11:03,839 everything 237 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:06,660 um like let's go to YouTube and we had 238 00:11:09,889 --> 00:11:08,220 to get you know we got permission from 239 00:11:11,389 --> 00:11:09,899 from Thomas Clearwater the investor and 240 00:11:14,569 --> 00:11:11,399 he said yeah guys you guys have 241 00:11:16,490 --> 00:11:14,579 definitely tried every Avenue and so we 242 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:16,500 uh so and that was the big thing was 243 00:11:20,509 --> 00:11:17,700 like everybody's like this is because 244 00:11:23,329 --> 00:11:20,519 this is not for free 245 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:23,339 um you know know that's that's hurting 246 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:25,260 the the you know the subject matter this 247 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:26,399 needs to be free this needs to be free 248 00:11:30,530 --> 00:11:28,920 and I and I get it you know I'm trust me 249 00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:30,540 I wish it could have been free earlier 250 00:11:35,949 --> 00:11:33,300 too but we had con we had you know 251 00:11:39,230 --> 00:11:35,959 contractual obligations to our investor 252 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:39,240 so uh luckily you know years later we 253 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:40,920 got through it all it's finally out it's 254 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:43,320 out there for free do you know I'm sure 255 00:11:48,110 --> 00:11:45,360 it's got to be Shadow banned because you 256 00:11:49,550 --> 00:11:48,120 know the probably the most uh hits on 257 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:49,560 any of those episodes that we have is 258 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:52,440 about twenty thousand that's what you do 259 00:11:59,389 --> 00:11:55,260 in a night and it's been out for a year 260 00:12:03,050 --> 00:11:59,399 on YouTube for free with 20 000 views 261 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:03,060 per episode if that like 10 maybe 10 000 262 00:12:06,949 --> 00:12:04,860 and some of the others so unless 263 00:12:09,530 --> 00:12:06,959 YouTube's uh algorithms are off or 264 00:12:11,569 --> 00:12:09,540 something like that but it just 265 00:12:13,069 --> 00:12:11,579 so you you say that and I don't that's 266 00:12:15,889 --> 00:12:13,079 why I think I don't know if it has 267 00:12:20,269 --> 00:12:15,899 really had that much of an impact 268 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:20,279 and now why 269 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:23,060 I mean the the 270 00:12:28,610 --> 00:12:25,860 that's what's so strange you write about 271 00:12:31,850 --> 00:12:28,620 the community the community was there uh 272 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:31,860 for sure but the other part about it is 273 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:36,000 the media and if if the citizens hearing 274 00:12:40,970 --> 00:12:39,240 went off today it I'd imagine it would 275 00:12:43,550 --> 00:12:40,980 be a totally different situation it 276 00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:43,560 wouldn't be that kind of party that the 277 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:46,139 media would be there and would support 278 00:12:49,610 --> 00:12:47,100 it 279 00:12:51,769 --> 00:12:49,620 yeah I think I think today would be a 280 00:12:53,629 --> 00:12:51,779 different definitely a different uh 281 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:53,639 situation 282 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:54,480 um 283 00:12:58,790 --> 00:12:56,760 because of all the you know everything 284 00:13:02,449 --> 00:12:58,800 that we're getting now from from the 285 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,459 mainstream coverage with uh with Lou and 286 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:04,800 and uh you know Gary Nolan and all the 287 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:06,839 guys are on the you know making the news 288 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:10,079 rounds so for sure uh it would probably 289 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:12,300 make do better but I don't know it's 290 00:13:16,069 --> 00:13:14,639 just such it's funny because it's out 291 00:13:19,069 --> 00:13:16,079 there it's sort of it's public record 292 00:13:22,910 --> 00:13:19,079 right it's it's out for masses to 293 00:13:25,970 --> 00:13:22,920 to view and to get educated and there 294 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:25,980 hasn't been a single media reference to 295 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:28,920 it mainstream media uh from you know the 296 00:13:33,170 --> 00:13:31,920 The Usual Suspects you know I consider 297 00:13:36,129 --> 00:13:33,180 you and your audience way more 298 00:13:39,290 --> 00:13:36,139 mainstream than those other guys 299 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:39,300 in the embassy you know those guys uh so 300 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:41,220 they haven't touched it they haven't 301 00:13:43,970 --> 00:13:41,820 um 302 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:43,980 you know I got recognition Lou actually 303 00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:45,540 called I think the last time I was on 304 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:47,160 your show uh or maybe it was two times 305 00:13:51,769 --> 00:13:49,980 before actually called and was uh 306 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:51,779 congratulating and talking about the 307 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:54,240 citizen here which was awesome that he 308 00:13:58,490 --> 00:13:57,839 uh he would give it props but 309 00:14:00,769 --> 00:13:58,500 um 310 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:00,779 the mainstream media has not 311 00:14:05,389 --> 00:14:03,120 you know has not said a thing about it 312 00:14:08,090 --> 00:14:05,399 so that that's also kind of like hmm 313 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:08,100 that's kind of you have this still to 314 00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:10,320 date the largest Collective body of 315 00:14:16,129 --> 00:14:12,120 evidence ever put together in one 316 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:16,139 setting it was a five-day uh you know 32 317 00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:18,660 hours worth of testimony 318 00:14:23,329 --> 00:14:21,240 um uh five-day event eight hours a day 319 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:23,339 plus plus additional panels in the 320 00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:24,660 evening 321 00:14:30,050 --> 00:14:27,899 um held at the national Press Club uh 322 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:30,060 and and six former members of Congress 323 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:32,880 so you would you would think with all 324 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:34,380 the stuff today even just a little 325 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:36,360 mention oh by the way yeah this this 326 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:38,880 thing happened it was in this epic event 327 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:41,519 you know cost a lot of money 328 00:14:45,769 --> 00:14:44,220 um so I I don't know there's something 329 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:45,779 uh 330 00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:48,060 we've tried you know we've tried myself 331 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:49,860 and and my other partner tried really 332 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:52,680 hard to get it out there but um it it 333 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:54,959 it's it's been it's been one of those 334 00:14:58,910 --> 00:14:57,120 strange Mysteries that may go down in 335 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:58,920 history as part of the Paranormal 336 00:15:06,889 --> 00:15:01,680 craziness yeah absolutely 337 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:06,899 um the uh the journey after that 338 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:11,519 um when you say and and it pains me to 339 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:14,940 have to agree with you but 340 00:15:20,650 --> 00:15:18,660 um it's not the UFO subject the contact 341 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:20,660 subject uh 342 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:23,399 extraterrestrial life visiting this 343 00:15:31,850 --> 00:15:27,500 planet that subject is one of the most 344 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:31,860 multi-layered complex uh that involves 345 00:15:36,829 --> 00:15:34,079 so many uh different people in 346 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:36,839 organizations that you you just can't 347 00:15:42,410 --> 00:15:39,480 focus on one thing because when you open 348 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:42,420 that up it leads you somewhere else and 349 00:15:47,870 --> 00:15:45,839 it is just one of the most insane things 350 00:15:50,689 --> 00:15:47,880 to try to figure out and you didn't have 351 00:15:55,009 --> 00:15:50,699 any idea about that back then did you 352 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:55,019 no I I mean at the uh during the 353 00:15:59,870 --> 00:15:57,540 production of the citizen hearing I 354 00:16:04,069 --> 00:15:59,880 I was just dipping my toe in you know I 355 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:04,079 was very much focused on evidence-based 356 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:05,100 um 357 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:07,199 you know hardcore things that I could 358 00:16:11,329 --> 00:16:08,760 tangible things that you can sort of 359 00:16:13,790 --> 00:16:11,339 look at as far as like the Roswell and 360 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:13,800 other uh major events that had 361 00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:16,380 documentation or or some sort of uh 362 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:20,300 paper trail or um evidence Left Behind 363 00:16:26,750 --> 00:16:24,360 uh so the Consciousness aspect was 364 00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:26,760 it was it did interest me because I did 365 00:16:30,350 --> 00:16:28,260 start to see especially when you started 366 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:30,360 talking about uh and getting to subjects 367 00:16:35,569 --> 00:16:31,800 like the hybrids 368 00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:35,579 you you really start to like have to go 369 00:16:43,310 --> 00:16:40,730 and let go of some of the physical 370 00:16:44,990 --> 00:16:43,320 tangible stuff because you have all 371 00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:45,000 these people talking about 372 00:16:50,689 --> 00:16:47,880 um their experiences and that body of 373 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,699 evidence for sure is is well weighted 374 00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,800 but there's no tangible stuff behind it 375 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:54,720 and they're talking extremely out there 376 00:16:58,670 --> 00:16:57,360 like hybrids and 377 00:17:00,710 --> 00:16:58,680 um you know being brought aboard ships 378 00:17:03,530 --> 00:17:00,720 and all this stuff so 379 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:03,540 um so then you kind of have to start 380 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:05,520 dipping your toe into Consciousness and 381 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:07,199 what is that and that's that's after the 382 00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:09,299 hearings that's where eventually I 383 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:11,220 started going and that's you know how I 384 00:17:15,949 --> 00:17:13,860 got got into my show but did you find 385 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:15,959 that strange 386 00:17:24,189 --> 00:17:21,240 um when you the obvious thing is you 387 00:17:27,409 --> 00:17:24,199 know ships made of materials that are 388 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:27,419 crossing you know the vastness of space 389 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:29,700 with somebody on board you know with a 390 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:32,460 you know whatever and and flying across 391 00:17:39,409 --> 00:17:36,480 and and that's that seems simple right 392 00:17:42,830 --> 00:17:39,419 and that's the way we are doing it here 393 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:42,840 on this planet we we get that but then 394 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:45,840 you find yourself going in other 395 00:17:53,630 --> 00:17:49,200 directions into the stuff that you know 396 00:17:57,289 --> 00:17:53,640 the tinfoil hat may need to be worn and 397 00:18:00,049 --> 00:17:57,299 that is you know interdimensional you 398 00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:00,059 know a Consciousness aspect and and 399 00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:02,160 maybe some of these ships aren't uh 400 00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:05,340 something as physical as is what we 401 00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:08,039 would normally think about first when 402 00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:09,960 you start going down those roads what 403 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:11,640 goes through your mind do you become the 404 00:18:15,950 --> 00:18:14,280 crazy person that that you read about 405 00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:15,960 and hear about 406 00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:18,780 well you're already kind of the you got 407 00:18:22,010 --> 00:18:20,520 you just by dipping your toe into the 408 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,020 evidence-based stuff you're already kind 409 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,480 of crazy especially at that time uh you 410 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:26,880 know the past 10 years that definitely 411 00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:29,880 people have sort of massaged their uh 412 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:33,539 fixed uh projections of of uh if you 413 00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:35,160 believe in UFOs so you can sort of 414 00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:37,080 safely say you believe in UFOs now and 415 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:40,440 not get uh not wear the tinfoil hat but 416 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:43,740 um uh back then uh so I was already kind 417 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:46,860 of in had one foot in that camp in in 418 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,960 that world so I was already getting the 419 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:50,640 strange look so I was like okay let's go 420 00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:52,860 deeper this is now no longer you know 421 00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:55,020 who cares what everybody else says I 422 00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:57,679 need to go deeper for my own personal 423 00:19:03,470 --> 00:19:00,900 understanding of the phenomenon uh and 424 00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:03,480 all signs point towards you know 425 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:06,360 Consciousness or quantum physics or you 426 00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:10,080 know this this Unseen World of Science 427 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:12,600 and spirituality 428 00:19:19,150 --> 00:19:16,799 um their their lies the answers to make 429 00:19:21,650 --> 00:19:19,160 sense of it all right there's no other 430 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:21,660 modality that kind of makes it make 431 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:23,940 sense unless you start going deeper into 432 00:19:27,890 --> 00:19:26,700 those uh worlds and I think all of all 433 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,900 of your guests and all of the 434 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:29,280 researchers 435 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:31,320 that's just where they go you know you 436 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:33,780 can be so hard for focused on the on the 437 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:35,039 physical stuff 438 00:19:39,289 --> 00:19:37,380 but um you're definitely gonna hit a 439 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:39,299 wall with 440 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,200 um uh Jacques valet's uh books uh not 441 00:19:47,470 --> 00:19:45,780 only you know the early stuff but his 442 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:47,480 continuing 443 00:19:54,049 --> 00:19:51,539 uh research and suggestions that you 444 00:19:55,130 --> 00:19:54,059 know it just means pain 445 00:19:58,490 --> 00:19:55,140 think 446 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,500 right and he kept throwing that out 447 00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:00,720 there he was relentless and he still is 448 00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:02,280 but 449 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,460 um for for a lot of us which includes me 450 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:07,919 it's like ah man what's he going on 451 00:20:16,190 --> 00:20:12,000 about is that no no no no no they're 452 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:16,200 ships with rivets made of titanium you 453 00:20:21,169 --> 00:20:18,299 know what you know I was I was like no 454 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:21,179 no it has to be this but there have been 455 00:20:27,710 --> 00:20:24,360 many researchers uh Jacques is a great 456 00:20:29,690 --> 00:20:27,720 example of that that have been trying to 457 00:20:33,169 --> 00:20:29,700 open that door for us for a very long 458 00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:33,179 time right yeah yeah he definitely was 459 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:35,100 one of the first in in sort of the more 460 00:20:40,970 --> 00:20:38,280 evidence-based physical uh researcher 461 00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:40,980 camp that really started presenting 462 00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:43,140 ideas I remember going to one of his 463 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:46,020 talks at the uh ions 464 00:20:53,330 --> 00:20:46,740 um 465 00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:53,340 research uh the ions Institute and and 466 00:20:56,570 --> 00:20:54,900 um Jacques was giving a speech and he 467 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:56,580 was talking I think the name of the 468 00:21:00,409 --> 00:20:57,600 speech was 469 00:21:03,049 --> 00:21:00,419 something about sisters uh the little 470 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:03,059 sister I somebody out there will know 471 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:05,940 but um it was in one of his books he 472 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,260 just talked about how these strange 473 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,080 things of strange synchronicities would 474 00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:12,240 happen when uh like a book would fall 475 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,000 off the shelf and open up and fall open 476 00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:17,280 to a specific page and then he'd be 477 00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:18,960 guided to a specific paragraph and he 478 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:20,580 reads it and it's like 479 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:22,500 very relevant to whatever he was dealing 480 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:24,900 with at that time uh and and just the 481 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:27,780 odds of that happening or so you know 482 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:32,100 just just not there's there were no odds 483 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:35,520 um and he uh um so there's this like 484 00:21:42,169 --> 00:21:39,000 unseen phenomenon that has uh control 485 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:42,179 over things like a book falling open you 486 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:44,280 know that there's some intelligence 487 00:21:48,289 --> 00:21:46,440 there it was what he was presenting and 488 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:48,299 I just remember hearing that in those 489 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,980 days and being like yeah totally that's 490 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,600 that's where we got to go that's where 491 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:53,280 this exploration and the research needs 492 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,400 to go and stop you know stop cutting it 493 00:22:00,430 --> 00:21:58,320 off and saying oh well there's that's 494 00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:00,440 that's all Hocus Pocus 495 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:02,820 is it have you looked down that path 496 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:05,120 have you gone down that home 497 00:22:10,669 --> 00:22:07,980 How would how would we or anyone even 498 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,679 know you can't qualify that kind of 499 00:22:16,370 --> 00:22:13,200 statement because there's there's just 500 00:22:18,649 --> 00:22:16,380 no way of knowing unless you've been to 501 00:22:21,289 --> 00:22:18,659 Zeta reticuline visited the planet and 502 00:22:24,289 --> 00:22:21,299 see how they do it unless you have that 503 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:24,299 kind of input uh you can't say yes or no 504 00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:28,320 to any of of these ideas we we right or 505 00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:30,780 or going down the path of you know 506 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,280 Shamanism and uh uh sort of the 507 00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:36,960 spiritual you know Consciousness 508 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:39,000 channeling 509 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:43,320 um the these types of uh modalities that 510 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:44,940 have existed for thousands of years on 511 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:46,500 our planet but many people just sort of 512 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:49,260 cut them off as as oh that's all woo 513 00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:51,240 they're actually more connected to the 514 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:53,220 phenomenon to the through my research 515 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,760 through the ET phenomenon and uh then we 516 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,320 give credit to them you know they're 517 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:00,720 they they they're not all the same but 518 00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:03,960 there are definitely uh aspects and 519 00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:06,900 bleed-throughs where perhaps a Zeta 520 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,740 reticuli can appear and show itself as a 521 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:12,960 uh owl totem or something like that 522 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:14,760 there's you know there's these things in 523 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:17,340 our Zeitgeist and many researchers have 524 00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:19,080 gone down these Paths of connecting the 525 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,260 dots with you know the the ancient ways 526 00:23:27,529 --> 00:23:25,200 and to the you know this the strange 527 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,539 data reticula you know 528 00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,280 um showing up and taking you in the ship 529 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:31,679 or whatever it is well 530 00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:35,400 um Tom Delong when he was on uh Fade to 531 00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:36,539 Black 532 00:23:41,870 --> 00:23:38,820 um and it doesn't matter what what 533 00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:41,880 anybody thinks about Tom or what the the 534 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:44,820 preconceived views of Tom are that 535 00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:48,840 doesn't matter uh to me but he made one 536 00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:51,720 statement and that still it just echoes 537 00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:54,600 in my mind I still hear him saying it he 538 00:24:02,270 --> 00:23:57,539 said it was one of the most intelligent 539 00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:02,280 things ever uh certainly for him 540 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:05,340 um is uh he said you know 541 00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:08,880 you got to be careful about what you're 542 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,179 gonna call in with your mind 543 00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:14,880 you got to be real careful when you're 544 00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:17,280 consciously connecting to something that 545 00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:19,020 you see in the sky because you don't 546 00:24:25,789 --> 00:24:22,500 know what you're connecting with or or 547 00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:25,799 what their agenda is so just be careful 548 00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:29,280 don't make and so what he was saying was 549 00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:32,820 and I'm not paraphrasing that there is a 550 00:24:39,529 --> 00:24:35,700 very deep and real conscious connection 551 00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:39,539 between us and them we don't know who 552 00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:43,380 them necessarily is and what the agenda 553 00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,240 is but we can and do do this there is a 554 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:50,159 conscious connection isn't there 555 00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:52,580 absolutely absolutely I mean that's 556 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,620 Greer's work is probably you know some 557 00:24:59,270 --> 00:24:57,360 of the best in that 558 00:25:02,270 --> 00:24:59,280 um making that connection you know with 559 00:25:04,610 --> 00:25:02,280 the c his ce5 protocols 560 00:25:06,169 --> 00:25:04,620 um you know I've done them over and over 561 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,179 I know you've been on some ce5 562 00:25:13,330 --> 00:25:09,360 adventures and uh there is a clear 563 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:13,340 connection to you know our uh intention 564 00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:16,860 and uh sort of are wanting to make a 565 00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:19,919 connection and the invitation and the 566 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:21,780 light show we get afterward and 567 00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:23,580 sometimes that light show goes Way 568 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:25,559 Beyond the light show and some of the C5 569 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:28,020 circles that I've been in the past 570 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:32,279 couple of years it's it's uh many of us 571 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,260 get the light show but many people have 572 00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:36,720 in that say in their dreams that night 573 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,419 uh contact experiences where they're on 574 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,760 the ships and then and then you have in 575 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,919 the group you have multiple people who 576 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:46,080 describe very similar contact 577 00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:48,600 experiences so they didn't dream share 578 00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:49,919 until we were all in the circle the next 579 00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:53,100 more so those are types of phenomenons 580 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,620 are happening and uh and contact 581 00:25:59,890 --> 00:25:57,600 experiences are happening 582 00:26:02,269 --> 00:25:59,900 which again just 583 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,279 solidifies this this conscious 584 00:26:06,730 --> 00:26:04,799 connection you know and if it even if 585 00:26:09,529 --> 00:26:06,740 it's all so-called made up in their head 586 00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:09,539 there's still a collective made up in 587 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:11,340 the head experience that's happening 588 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:13,080 that you can't deny that you have to 589 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:17,460 acknowledge that uh there's a shared 590 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:21,120 experience being had visually and you 591 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:23,760 know in the dream state now 592 00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:28,320 um I I have had many I'm not certainly 593 00:26:36,649 --> 00:26:32,760 the only one but I have had both 594 00:26:38,169 --> 00:26:36,659 I have had the daytime 595 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:38,179 physical 596 00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:42,480 metallic crazy ass craft in the sky 597 00:26:49,630 --> 00:26:45,480 right I've had that 598 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:49,640 and I've also had the you know the the 599 00:26:57,169 --> 00:26:55,140 ce5 light show I've had that too as well 600 00:26:58,970 --> 00:26:57,179 um and because it's at night you can't 601 00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:58,980 necessarily see if it's anything 602 00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:01,919 physical but a lot of these craft are 603 00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:06,020 glowing so it also makes you wonder that 604 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:09,179 you know that this is something that may 605 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:12,960 just be Pure Energy based and then and 606 00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:16,799 then the third part of that is and I've 607 00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:19,320 done this many many times not once many 608 00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:23,340 times where we've done the ce5 at night 609 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:25,500 you know and everybody's got the lasers 610 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:27,860 right and they're pointing away 611 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,760 and you see a glowing craft and then the 612 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,039 laser bounces off of it and it's 613 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,200 something that you think well you know 614 00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:38,880 that's that's you know that's an energy 615 00:27:44,690 --> 00:27:41,700 ball energy source but then when a when 616 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:44,700 a laser bounces off of it that catches 617 00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:47,100 so you know that's like a combination of 618 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:48,360 both 619 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:52,559 um so is it that and you've done the 620 00:28:01,370 --> 00:27:57,360 same thing so when is it is it that it's 621 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:01,380 just not the same beings from the same 622 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:04,380 Planet you know that this is a variety 623 00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:07,679 of stuff that is visiting us uh and 624 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:10,740 maybe only seeing seeing us once maybe 625 00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:13,440 only visiting us once and moving on and 626 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:15,240 going somewhere else and we're just 627 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,140 getting a variety uh here 628 00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:21,120 absolutely I think that's what it is 629 00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:22,860 through you know through the work of my 630 00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:25,220 show and through all the different 631 00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:27,480 civilizations and types of beings and 632 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:30,840 interactions uh that does seem and we 633 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:32,340 physically we can see the different 634 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,260 types of craft and the phenomenon and 635 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,200 how it shows up and sometimes the laser 636 00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:38,640 bounces off sometimes the laser goes 637 00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:39,900 straight through you know there's so 638 00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:40,620 many 639 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:43,380 different ways that it shows up I've had 640 00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,340 on the ground experiences of Lights just 641 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:49,919 you know being in the trees or or just 642 00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:51,740 you know a few feet away 643 00:28:56,930 --> 00:28:54,360 looks like you know magical fairy dust 644 00:29:00,190 --> 00:28:56,940 you know what is that you know is it 645 00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:00,200 it's clearly not a ship uh 646 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:03,000 can I can I stop you right there sure 647 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:05,039 tell me about I haven't had that 648 00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:06,360 experience 649 00:29:12,049 --> 00:29:09,419 you know what what happened take if it's 650 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,059 happened more than once then give us the 651 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,679 the one I'll give you I'll give you the 652 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:15,840 latest one we were doing the C5 group 653 00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:18,960 out at Joshua tree and 654 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:20,760 um doing the meditation and you know the 655 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,980 usual look in the stars and nothing 656 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,960 really significant I think that popped 657 00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:26,960 out uh we had finished the meditation 658 00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:30,539 and one of the uh members of the group 659 00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:33,419 was walking up to the we were kind of 660 00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:36,600 sitting next to a mountain or a hill 661 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,100 side 662 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:40,320 and uh one of the members was walking in 663 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:43,500 that direction so we heard something 664 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,320 um I think he he may have slipped or 665 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,240 said something and then so the whole 666 00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:50,399 group kind of looked that direction and 667 00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:53,460 right at that moment a whole 668 00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:55,620 almost like my neon green light here 669 00:30:01,130 --> 00:29:59,279 just went across uh like it was almost 670 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:01,140 like fireworks in it I can say but 671 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:03,779 there's no sound and it just went you 672 00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:06,360 know across I added sound because you 673 00:30:11,149 --> 00:30:08,700 know for a dramatic effect but there was 674 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,159 no it was it was just no sound 675 00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:14,159 um so uh uh and everybody saw it we were 676 00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:15,779 like whoa what was that it looked like 677 00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:18,840 literally like a fairy had just peppered 678 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:21,000 some magical fairy dust on the side of 679 00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:22,080 the mountain 680 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:23,399 um and it happened pretty 681 00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,080 instantaneously but clearly everybody 682 00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:27,539 had that we all had the same experience 683 00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,120 and it looked we all were trying to talk 684 00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:32,399 about it afterward like what what could 685 00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:35,100 have been like what does that uh and 686 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:36,840 this again with no sound but you had 687 00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:39,600 this this specifically this color of 688 00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:43,260 green it was like a neon green type of 689 00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:44,059 um 690 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:47,340 uh you know fairy dust that's all I 691 00:30:51,049 --> 00:30:49,500 gotta say I wish I could describe better 692 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:51,059 but so that kind of thing and then I've 693 00:30:56,330 --> 00:30:52,620 been another you know where there's 694 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:56,340 lights in the woods and uh off in the uh 695 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,600 from the distance like an orange 696 00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,760 orangish sort of glowing thing that 697 00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:02,159 glows and then it goes away but the the 698 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,380 fairy dust thing was more recent and 699 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:06,240 everybody saw it so that was kind of 700 00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:09,179 confirmation that we made contact with 701 00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:10,740 something I you know I don't know other 702 00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:13,080 people described different beans and 703 00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:14,580 stuff in the morning 704 00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:18,899 um but uh back I kind of want to go back 705 00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:22,740 to Tom delong's uh quote sure you know I 706 00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:25,500 know he said that but through the my 707 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:28,380 practices and through the um you know 708 00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:31,740 working with shamanic and shamanic uh um 709 00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:35,399 energies and shamanic uh practitioners 710 00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:37,620 um you really when when we and 711 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:39,480 especially when we do the C5 you set the 712 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,480 intention and as a group we we always 713 00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:44,159 sort of um 714 00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:49,020 do a little prayer or meditation to to 715 00:31:54,409 --> 00:31:52,620 um clear any un uh unwanted energy or 716 00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:54,419 sort of negative energy or heavy energy 717 00:32:01,130 --> 00:31:57,659 that might not be in the in the best uh 718 00:32:03,529 --> 00:32:01,140 Evolution and light for for all so 719 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,539 um you know as we get into those types 720 00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,240 of habits I think you don't really need 721 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:07,919 to worry about oh I'm sending my 722 00:32:12,409 --> 00:32:09,480 Consciousness out because you're doing 723 00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:12,419 it with with good intention and as 724 00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:14,340 Bashar says what you put out is what you 725 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,020 get back so as long as you're putting 726 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:17,760 out you know as long as you're not in 727 00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:22,020 fear and and oftentimes that is a 728 00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:26,220 deterrent of having a a good group ce5 729 00:32:33,049 --> 00:32:29,520 experience they many times I've been in 730 00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:33,059 c5s where uh nothing happens you know we 731 00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:34,440 do the meditation nobody sees anything 732 00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:36,779 and then everybody starts to go to bed 733 00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:39,179 or people go home and those who stay a 734 00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:41,460 little bit later will then get a little 735 00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:43,559 bit of a light show that are not afraid 736 00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:45,539 that are excited you know for for the 737 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,580 contact experience and and don't get 738 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:50,399 afraid so and what I've sort of been 739 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,919 told and investigating and understand is 740 00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:54,240 that 741 00:32:57,769 --> 00:32:54,899 um 742 00:33:00,289 --> 00:32:57,779 you know the the ones that if you have 743 00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:00,299 someone in the group that is afraid the 744 00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:01,679 ones that you want to meet aren't going 745 00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:04,740 to show up because they they don't want 746 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:08,520 to create a fear in in uh in you know in 747 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,080 the experience this is about open 748 00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,480 contact and making contact it's not 749 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:14,279 about being scared out of your pants or 750 00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:17,519 you know or creating more trauma that 751 00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:19,559 will you know push disclosure down the 752 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,019 road even more because right now I think 753 00:33:27,409 --> 00:33:24,960 the main reason we don't have a full 754 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,419 disclosure in open contact is because 755 00:33:33,310 --> 00:33:29,279 Humanity still has so many traumas to 756 00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:36,470 what is the deal 757 00:33:39,549 --> 00:33:37,340 um 758 00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:39,559 uh with location 759 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,779 does location matter uh when you do a 760 00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:44,000 ce5 761 00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,539 I think ultimately no but I think there 762 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:50,640 are advantages to to being in certain 763 00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:52,500 locations clearly you want to have a 764 00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:56,220 clear night a clear view of the sky but 765 00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:00,840 I tend to uh seek out 766 00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:04,440 um locations that are uh known grid 767 00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,940 lines or or Ley lines and how you find 768 00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:10,980 that is many energy sensitive people I'm 769 00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,080 I'm not one so I usually tag along with 770 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:14,639 the energy sensitive person I'm like 771 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:16,740 okay you're gonna be my radar you know 772 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:19,740 uh but you can literally learn how to 773 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,200 douse that's one way to sort of find Ley 774 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,720 lines uh with the dowsing rods 775 00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:27,599 um and uh but many sensitive people and 776 00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,399 Indigenous people have always who've 777 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:31,679 done sacred ceremony in these locations 778 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:34,200 they have they do them for a reason and 779 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:38,399 and the sacred ceremonies uh actually 780 00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:40,740 um amplify the energy 781 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:43,980 so absolutely if you uh like going and 782 00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:47,820 doing a C5 down at Giant Rock 783 00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:50,280 um I've had lots of success there as 784 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:52,020 opposed to being you know somewhere else 785 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:53,700 in Big Bear or something like that um 786 00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:56,879 yeah let me jump in let me jump in 787 00:35:00,349 --> 00:34:58,440 um 788 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:00,359 is that you 789 00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:03,060 oh what's that hello hello I just hear 790 00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:04,920 this hum 791 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,540 it started last night too as well but 792 00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:08,160 it's not in here 793 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:12,540 yeah I'm not hearing anything on my side 794 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,450 you don't hear that 795 00:35:23,569 --> 00:35:20,880 I don't know but I'm not live I 796 00:35:25,069 --> 00:35:23,579 it's weird it's weird it was last dude I 797 00:35:28,030 --> 00:35:25,079 think I think I think it's the movie 798 00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:30,170 so so 799 00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:32,940 um back in I'm gonna say it was around 800 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:34,820 September 801 00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:38,400 uh I go to Joshua Tree uh with a group 802 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,520 of friends it's uh Billy Carson 803 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,400 um Elizabeth and one two three four five 804 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,280 I think five five other friends for a 805 00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:50,400 sky private Skywatch and we stay we stay 806 00:35:59,650 --> 00:35:53,060 at the retreat center okay 807 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:01,910 yeah we did the whole thing man it was 808 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:03,240 It was kind of weird being back because 809 00:36:06,010 --> 00:36:04,800 I haven't been back since the old days 810 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:06,020 of contact 811 00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:08,280 anyway so 812 00:36:13,609 --> 00:36:10,440 um up at the Bungalows 813 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,619 um uh where Orion's Lookout is it's got 814 00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:15,420 a really nice fire pit set up there now 815 00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:19,859 with these nice uh wooden uh uh uh it's 816 00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:21,420 really nice it's nice nice nice nice 817 00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:25,260 nice Mediterranean Vibe right so we're 818 00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:27,180 out there got the night vision got 819 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:29,460 everything on and I think that was 820 00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,320 Friday night 821 00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,359 Zippo 822 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:34,560 nothing 823 00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:38,820 right the next night we go over to giant 824 00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:39,720 rock 825 00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:50,150 yeah it's five ten miles tops right 826 00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:51,960 um it's just right there go over to 827 00:36:59,390 --> 00:36:55,200 giant rock 200 in 828 00:37:05,390 --> 00:36:59,400 60 Minutes like crazy 829 00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:05,400 just jumping off nuts zigzagging light 830 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,060 show going out in the sky I'm like we 831 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:11,040 were just right and and it was it was 832 00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:15,180 not same place same location giant rock 833 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:17,339 is special so yeah I would say that 834 00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:21,359 location but then again Joshua Tree 835 00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:24,420 um on many many nights is is a pretty 836 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:27,900 special place uh for for a sighting and 837 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:31,140 and usually very low 838 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:32,460 yeah 839 00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:39,359 know uh by Jay Rock when you have the 840 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:42,839 rock which is a sort of a sacred 841 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:45,240 um uh um 842 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:47,880 you know renowned antenna of objects 843 00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:49,260 with lots of history and then you have 844 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,000 the I don't know do you know about have 845 00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:53,760 you ever been on one of Eric's um uh 846 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,040 tours for the the big Crystal Mound 847 00:38:00,650 --> 00:37:57,599 that's just around the corner from Jack 848 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:00,660 Rock I I don't I I don't know who Eric 849 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:03,000 is but 850 00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:07,260 um he's he's uh the the he's he knows 851 00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:09,240 everything about the integrityron he 852 00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:11,460 does the the story he does uh was it 853 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:13,160 math something math 854 00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:16,920 uh somebody else okay later I'll 855 00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:18,780 remember it later but I've been to the 856 00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,740 crystal map oh Sonic geometry Eric 857 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:25,200 geometry anyways there's an awesome 858 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:28,140 Crystal Rock he does a tour of um just 859 00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:30,300 around the corner from giant the actual 860 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:31,740 rock 861 00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:35,700 ET we were out there 862 00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:39,240 um uh this was about 10 years ago 863 00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:41,940 and we were in 29 Palms 864 00:38:48,170 --> 00:38:45,420 so we're 19 miles from Joshua tree right 865 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,180 we're in 29 Palms and out in the middle 866 00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:49,680 of the desert if I'm gonna make this 867 00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:52,200 really quick but this is how amazing it 868 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,839 is because when people go oh you know 869 00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:56,820 it's it's it could be anything in the 870 00:39:02,770 --> 00:39:00,599 sky well how about the opposite let's go 871 00:39:05,089 --> 00:39:02,780 the opposite 872 00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:05,099 we're we're 873 00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:07,020 um uh standing on this patio we had 874 00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:09,000 rented this Bungalow out in the middle 875 00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:10,500 of the desert there's nothing around us 876 00:39:17,150 --> 00:39:14,820 it's just desert and um and I'm standing 877 00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:17,160 and somebody says and we had a big stack 878 00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:19,500 of pizzas and and we're just having a 879 00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:21,480 good time and it's about 10 o'clock at 880 00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:24,060 night and Steve Murillo is standing next 881 00:39:29,690 --> 00:39:27,420 to me Alex mistretta was there and uh 882 00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:29,700 about 10 of us and somebody says it 883 00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:30,839 wasn't me 884 00:39:36,530 --> 00:39:34,200 wouldn't it be cool if if we saw a UFO 885 00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:36,540 all right now 886 00:39:47,569 --> 00:39:43,910 from the desert floor 887 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:47,579 this white glowing ball 888 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,650 just straight up into the Stars 889 00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:57,119 it lasted about 890 00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:58,980 a second 891 00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,780 it wasn't two seconds it might have been 892 00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:03,599 a half a second not a streak no flames 893 00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:06,900 no sparks no smoke no nothing a white 894 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:09,900 ball and it was maybe 895 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:12,180 it seemed like a couple hundred yards 896 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:14,760 away you know it was very cool 897 00:40:21,530 --> 00:40:17,880 so the next day I get up 898 00:40:23,569 --> 00:40:21,540 we're all TR you know we're all what 899 00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:23,579 so the next day I get up and I'm like 900 00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,740 okay and I walk out got my cough and I 901 00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:28,079 go out on the bed now well where was and 902 00:40:31,609 --> 00:40:30,180 to my amazement I was expecting 903 00:40:35,569 --> 00:40:31,619 something there was nothing out there 904 00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:35,579 there's no houses no roads it was just 905 00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:37,980 brush to the foothills 906 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:40,560 and I kind of took a little bit of a 907 00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:43,680 walk out there maybe 50 yards it just 908 00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:45,060 took a look at there's nothing there 909 00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:48,720 it's just no buildings no roads it's 910 00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:51,540 just desert and that was from the floor 911 00:40:57,770 --> 00:40:55,260 from the desert floor to the Stars 912 00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,780 yeah yeah now what do you say is there a 913 00:41:03,790 --> 00:41:00,000 conscious connection hey man would it be 914 00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,410 yeah I mean those happened so many times 915 00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:08,880 you just can't of course yeah there's 916 00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:12,359 this uh and and if you doubt it go out 917 00:41:18,589 --> 00:41:15,480 yourself and do this and you know do it 918 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:18,599 10 times and then and then if you have 919 00:41:22,609 --> 00:41:20,700 you know one out of ten experiences then 920 00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:22,619 then do it another 10 and then another 921 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:25,920 10. it it's it's an odds game at this 922 00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:29,880 point I mean I go out with and do uh c5s 923 00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,040 once a month every new moon uh not in 924 00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:34,079 the colder months now but starting to 925 00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:35,339 next month 926 00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:38,700 and uh everybody has an experience at 927 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,200 some point you know whether it's an 928 00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:42,720 internal one or an external one it's 929 00:41:47,329 --> 00:41:44,040 nice when we all get the external 930 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:47,339 validation that's great but the the veil 931 00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:49,560 is so thin now they're coming and going 932 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,300 they're popping in and out every and 933 00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,040 people are having people are waking up 934 00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:56,099 and and getting activated it's awesome 935 00:42:03,290 --> 00:41:59,700 well here's here's the thing 936 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,300 I I need to warn people and I try to do 937 00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:06,000 this as often as I can you're more than 938 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,000 welcome to go out with us right they I 939 00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:12,000 want to see my first ship okay all right 940 00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:14,700 but you need to be prepared on how to 941 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:17,339 deal with it because it's kind of fun in 942 00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:20,880 the moment but you do have a paradigm 943 00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:23,460 shift man you know you mean this is this 944 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:26,520 is real well yeah and then you have to 945 00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:28,680 deal with it for the next couple of days 946 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:30,420 and weeks 947 00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:32,700 um and and processing it you know what I 948 00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:33,540 mean 949 00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:36,900 well yeah those days are so like back 950 00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:40,500 you know so long ago I I I'm you're 951 00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:41,820 bringing me back Memory Lane I'm like oh 952 00:42:46,609 --> 00:42:43,380 yeah I guess there's some processing 953 00:42:48,349 --> 00:42:46,619 that uh a lot of the the ones I've been 954 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,359 going on is I've been 955 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:49,680 um a lot of people who have already 956 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:52,260 experienced uh experiencers those are 957 00:42:58,970 --> 00:42:54,060 the fun ones because 958 00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,980 you get a um you go much deeper with 959 00:43:04,690 --> 00:43:01,920 with the um with the messages and with 960 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:04,700 the contact experiences uh because again 961 00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:07,920 fear is the mind killer so to say right 962 00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:10,859 uh so having 963 00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:14,460 fear uh actually inhibits your ability 964 00:43:19,609 --> 00:43:16,500 to make contact 965 00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:19,619 UM and I actually open for a lot of my 966 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,140 uh when I do the c5s I do guided breath 967 00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:24,960 work in the beginning to really get to 968 00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:27,420 neutralize and get people out of a you 969 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,359 know a fight or flight State and get in 970 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:33,200 a more just uh harmonious natural 971 00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:36,240 relaxed State and then that's when 972 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:38,819 you're in that state then then end with 973 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,920 the right intention obviously you don't 974 00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:42,720 so you want to just put it out there 975 00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:45,060 that I want to contact be very specific 976 00:43:48,829 --> 00:43:47,460 I want contact with beans of love and 977 00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:48,839 light and you know they can be physical 978 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,180 or drive tin cans but as long as they 979 00:43:54,589 --> 00:43:53,040 have the best intentions you know so as 980 00:43:56,809 --> 00:43:54,599 long as you do that 981 00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:56,819 yeah it's it's uh and you go deeper and 982 00:44:01,309 --> 00:43:58,680 deeper every time 983 00:44:05,569 --> 00:44:01,319 I I do the opposite 984 00:44:08,809 --> 00:44:05,579 I crank Van Halen okay I I've got I use 985 00:44:10,089 --> 00:44:08,819 all of my worst jokes 986 00:44:13,130 --> 00:44:10,099 um 987 00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:13,140 pastrami sandwiches this is not a vegan 988 00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:15,020 night 989 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:18,960 I go the opposite of all of that but 990 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:21,660 it's about the intention right you know 991 00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:23,640 putting everybody in a good mood let's 992 00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:26,520 be happy and let's enjoy each other's 993 00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:29,579 company and I've done the real ce5 I've 994 00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:33,380 I've ruined ce5s actually 995 00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,700 sitting around doing their you know 996 00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,040 their meditation and we've got some some 997 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,560 alien music playing you know in the 998 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:43,440 background some kind of sitar whatever 999 00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:49,970 oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah got the 1000 00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,319 Bulls going and 1001 00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:54,540 um and and somebody okay 1002 00:45:00,589 --> 00:44:57,720 so let's breathe and let's invite our 1003 00:45:02,030 --> 00:45:00,599 alien brothers and sisters and I'll come 1004 00:45:03,309 --> 00:45:02,040 out with a bag of Doritos so what's 1005 00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:03,319 going on man 1006 00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,880 all right we're gonna corner you off 1007 00:45:11,089 --> 00:45:08,000 when we're on the boat 1008 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,099 I've had I've had people go [\h__\h] you in 1009 00:45:16,329 --> 00:45:12,480 your room 1010 00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:16,339 shut up we have burritos 1011 00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:18,420 it's just you know 1012 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:21,900 um but anyway anyway I I kid not really 1013 00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:24,900 but that's it's ultimately it's it is 1014 00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:26,700 about having fun and that's what it 1015 00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:28,140 should be about I mean 1016 00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,599 exploration of Consciousness it's having 1017 00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:34,079 fun and and joking around and it I mean 1018 00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:35,579 yeah you can take it serious because 1019 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,319 there is some serious learning you can 1020 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,599 do I guess through some of the tools 1021 00:45:43,309 --> 00:45:41,520 that you these beans give you but 1022 00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:43,319 ultimately yeah it should be a party we 1023 00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,660 should be celebrating and and having a 1024 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,359 good time and 1025 00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:50,880 here's uh let me ask you this 1026 00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:55,319 um and do you 1027 00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:00,359 that is crazy to me what I missed that I 1028 00:46:05,890 --> 00:46:03,599 need contact you don't hear that oh no 1029 00:46:10,990 --> 00:46:05,900 no I'm not hearing this sorry man and 1030 00:46:14,809 --> 00:46:11,000 dude my room is but quiet 1031 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:14,819 but wow okay it's it's just weird 1032 00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:17,400 whatever it is it's recording on a 1033 00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:18,660 separate track and then like play it 1034 00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:20,940 back again it is absolutely weird it 1035 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:23,880 started last night uh I'm telling you 1036 00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:25,260 man it's the movie contact you remember 1037 00:46:29,770 --> 00:46:26,819 when they're recording that and the 1038 00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:29,780 meters are jumping up and down 1039 00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:32,339 yeah yeah yeah that's what it is it's 1040 00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,440 exactly what it is 1041 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:36,000 um but 1042 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,720 um 1043 00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:38,700 the 1044 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:41,520 if you're expecting something 1045 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:44,880 no I I'm asking the wrong way when 1046 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:47,160 something appears it always catches You 1047 00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:51,359 by surprise doesn't it yeah you you it's 1048 00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:53,700 never like you don't get a warning shot 1049 00:47:02,030 --> 00:46:57,960 right it's it's always a surprise 1050 00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:02,040 yeah and that's you know I I think you 1051 00:47:05,569 --> 00:47:03,660 know I use this analogy all the time I I 1052 00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:05,579 first saw it I don't know how true it is 1053 00:47:09,650 --> 00:47:07,800 but I first saw it in I think was what 1054 00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:09,660 the bleep do we know right remember that 1055 00:47:13,390 --> 00:47:10,859 movie 1056 00:47:18,410 --> 00:47:15,950 I liked I liked what the bleep do we 1057 00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:18,420 know yeah it still holds up today 1058 00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:20,819 there's sections of it on the internet 1059 00:47:24,109 --> 00:47:22,980 um and there was this one section I 1060 00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:24,119 always look up because the first thing 1061 00:47:29,809 --> 00:47:27,960 that comes up uh how uh the Indians the 1062 00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:29,819 local Indians at the time the Native 1063 00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:32,099 Americans at the time couldn't even see 1064 00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,140 the ships like the ships were there but 1065 00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,240 because they didn't have the um 1066 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,119 awareness of what you know Foreigner 1067 00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:41,280 ships look like so it wasn't even 1068 00:47:46,010 --> 00:47:43,380 visible and it wasn't until the shaman 1069 00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:46,020 of the town the the medicine man right 1070 00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:48,540 could uh astral travel and kind of 1071 00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:50,520 understand and sort of bring back some 1072 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,920 sort of language about what the ship was 1073 00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:54,720 and then tell the tribe hey the ships 1074 00:47:58,730 --> 00:47:56,760 are there's ships out there and right 1075 00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:58,740 people aboard them right so so and that 1076 00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:00,839 was like six or seven days later they 1077 00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:03,000 finally recognized it you know that may 1078 00:48:07,849 --> 00:48:05,339 be an urban legend who knows but that 1079 00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:07,859 idea is I think what we're dealing with 1080 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,440 where I think these 1081 00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:12,960 um crafts are there all the time and 1082 00:48:18,290 --> 00:48:16,500 it's just us getting to that uh that 1083 00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:18,300 frequency that vibration that state of 1084 00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:20,220 being where we're you know doing our 1085 00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:22,740 meditations or or just in the right you 1086 00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,140 know Vibe eating Doritos and having fun 1087 00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:27,599 whatever it is to get us into that that 1088 00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:29,460 place where then boom they're there and 1089 00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:31,980 it's like oh maybe they're always there 1090 00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:34,020 we're just harmonized at the right 1091 00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:35,700 moment so we could actually have that 1092 00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:38,819 physical experience the um the first 1093 00:48:43,849 --> 00:48:42,420 time I watched somebody and I used to 1094 00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:43,859 think that this was I'm going to use a 1095 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:45,960 bad word can I use a bad word I used to 1096 00:48:52,609 --> 00:48:49,440 think it was such [\h__\h] the Laser 1097 00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,619 Flash thing all right and I I would 1098 00:48:57,230 --> 00:48:54,800 listen like man 1099 00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,240 when they power up yeah yeah yeah yeah 1100 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:00,000 yeah yeah oh you know and I'm out with a 1101 00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:03,660 group of people and and this guy that 1102 00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:05,099 was standing next to me had a night 1103 00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:09,660 vision monocular right and and and he 1104 00:49:13,609 --> 00:49:11,160 was just really funny all night long 1105 00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:13,619 anyway so he you know for a couple hours 1106 00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:15,960 he's next to me and he's he he he he 1107 00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,260 could spot stuff and and there was just 1108 00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,599 like some low-flying things anyway so he 1109 00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:23,119 goes 1110 00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:26,819 that one is a flasher that's how he 1111 00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:30,300 would say it flashing right and uh I 1112 00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:32,700 said what do you mean he goes laser I go 1113 00:49:37,609 --> 00:49:35,220 oh that's that no come on man and he 1114 00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,619 goes okay just just watch it and he 1115 00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:39,920 takes the the laser he goes 1116 00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:44,940 dude on cue bloop this thing dabs what 1117 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:47,099 no 1118 00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:51,680 blue 1119 00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:55,980 oh what and now look I know I know how 1120 00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:58,140 crazy this sounds to somebody that 1121 00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:01,440 hasn't experienced it but it is 1122 00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:03,900 something that is real 1123 00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:07,859 and and I I agree with you they're up 1124 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:09,420 there all the time you know that guy is 1125 00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:11,640 sitting there right he's just sitting 1126 00:50:15,290 --> 00:50:13,260 there and if you've got the right 1127 00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,300 intention I think it's like sending out 1128 00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:17,760 a beacon you know your intention your 1129 00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:20,940 Consciousness is is lighting up and and 1130 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:24,359 and he sees the good intention Zone and 1131 00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:26,760 then the flash comes and and he flashes 1132 00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:30,420 back I know it sounds crazy but but it 1133 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:31,740 it happens 1134 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,900 well when you go into all the 1135 00:50:36,890 --> 00:50:35,520 Consciousness experiments they've been 1136 00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,900 like you know mentioning Edgar Mitchell 1137 00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:38,460 and ions they've done Dean Raiden he's 1138 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:40,619 done so many so many you know heart math 1139 00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:43,680 Institute uh you know 1140 00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,540 um Dr Joe dispenza like all of these 1141 00:50:50,809 --> 00:50:47,099 guys have just been killing it with 1142 00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:50,819 their uh experiments proving beyond a 1143 00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:54,059 shadow of a doubt that that are that you 1144 00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:55,940 know uh spooky action at a distance 1145 00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:59,520 Einstein's you know uh um theory of you 1146 00:51:05,890 --> 00:51:02,640 know interconnectedness uh entanglement 1147 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,900 entanglement yeah entanglement 1148 00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:08,160 Dean Raiden 1149 00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:12,300 um said something to me once that dude 1150 00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:15,059 he's so he's so insanely smart right 1151 00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:17,880 he's intimidating he's that smart nice 1152 00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,180 guy great guy funny guy too he's 1153 00:51:27,230 --> 00:51:23,599 actually got a sense of humor but he is 1154 00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:27,240 really smart and he said to me and he 1155 00:51:30,530 --> 00:51:28,559 goes well you know when it comes to 1156 00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,540 things like you know people want to see 1157 00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,520 what you know telekinesis this or this 1158 00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,980 or moving objects or this that you know 1159 00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:36,720 it it's got to be this over the top 1160 00:51:42,589 --> 00:51:39,720 that's not how it happens right he says 1161 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:42,599 you are changing something very slightly 1162 00:51:49,329 --> 00:51:46,260 in the quantum world and when you change 1163 00:51:51,790 --> 00:51:49,339 enough of those they add up to something 1164 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,800 but that's where it occurs 1165 00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:54,240 subconsciously you're interacting with 1166 00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:57,839 something at in the quantum world you're 1167 00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:01,500 causing an atom a particle to vibrate a 1168 00:52:06,349 --> 00:52:03,720 certain way something you can see 1169 00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:06,359 outright with your eyes and then it 1170 00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,980 accumulates you know enough of those 1171 00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:10,079 particles and then boom you know 1172 00:52:14,210 --> 00:52:12,540 something pushes off of a table or 1173 00:52:16,370 --> 00:52:14,220 something is connected Across the 1174 00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:16,380 Universe or another mind is connected 1175 00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:19,859 but it's not some massive thing up front 1176 00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:22,980 that you can quantify and measure and 1177 00:52:28,089 --> 00:52:25,380 observe it's happening at the quantum 1178 00:52:31,069 --> 00:52:28,099 level on our end isn't it 1179 00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:31,079 I I that's what the research sort of 1180 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:33,900 points to yeah and and the experience so 1181 00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:36,480 when you when you add up the two you 1182 00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:39,540 kind of have a recipe for a whole new 1183 00:52:44,930 --> 00:52:42,900 world view Paradigm you know you gotta 1184 00:52:47,809 --> 00:52:44,940 uh the problem I think with most of 1185 00:52:50,329 --> 00:52:47,819 humanities we just haven't presented uh 1186 00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:50,339 that Paradigm on mass right you're doing 1187 00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:54,119 a great job here but uh the the masses 1188 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,700 are seem to be more interested now than 1189 00:53:03,170 --> 00:53:00,000 ever uh about this these this sort of 1190 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:03,180 New World Paradigm but um you know these 1191 00:53:07,609 --> 00:53:04,800 these experiments have been going way 1192 00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,619 back to the 50s and 60s 40s you know 1193 00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,559 Tesla his work it's just a I think it's 1194 00:53:16,010 --> 00:53:13,079 it's about Mass critical mass and once 1195 00:53:18,370 --> 00:53:16,020 we get that then then we'll all be 1196 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:18,380 seeing the ships 1197 00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:20,040 now 1198 00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,660 um and you had said this at the 1199 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:23,119 beginning of the show 1200 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:27,180 that uh especially with the conscious uh 1201 00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:30,240 Consciousness side of things that 1202 00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:31,980 um we don't get it and we don't 1203 00:53:34,970 --> 00:53:34,140 understand that right now but 1204 00:53:38,329 --> 00:53:34,980 ET 1205 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:38,339 certainly does that appears to be the 1206 00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:39,359 case 1207 00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:43,220 if E.T shows up here and tells us that 1208 00:53:48,290 --> 00:53:45,960 Consciousness is the way and that's the 1209 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:48,300 that's the only way that we deal with 1210 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:51,780 things and in every aspect of of our 1211 00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:54,720 lives and our world are we equipped to 1212 00:54:01,130 --> 00:53:58,500 even understand what they would have 1213 00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:01,140 learned and and what they what they 1214 00:54:07,069 --> 00:54:03,300 easily understand would we have that 1215 00:54:09,049 --> 00:54:07,079 capability of of understanding 1216 00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:09,059 I I think so I mean I think it's already 1217 00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:10,740 happening you there's many many 1218 00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,920 contactees and psychics and experiencers 1219 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:16,319 and you know the people on your show in 1220 00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,180 my show that uh channelers that are 1221 00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:23,760 doing that they're sort of Bridging the 1222 00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:27,119 the uh they're playing that role as 1223 00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:31,140 Bridgers to New Concepts and ideas uh 1224 00:54:34,490 --> 00:54:32,220 about 1225 00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,500 um you know World Views operating 1226 00:54:39,170 --> 00:54:36,839 systems things that will help us deal 1227 00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:39,180 with traumas and 1228 00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:42,059 um and prepare for 1229 00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:46,380 a more Global uh contact experience or a 1230 00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:47,940 global um 1231 00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:51,059 uh disclosure so it's I think it's 1232 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,220 already happening and the more we can 1233 00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:56,400 lean into that the spiritual communities 1234 00:55:02,030 --> 00:54:59,220 and doing our own spiritual work and 1235 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:02,040 um not looking for someone to save us 1236 00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:04,260 but you know looking for someone to 1237 00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:06,540 perhaps show us and give us the tools so 1238 00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:09,780 we can save ourselves then uh then the 1239 00:55:15,230 --> 00:55:11,839 more we do that on the individual basis 1240 00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:15,240 eventually adds up to a collective 1241 00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:19,920 um uh energy that can hold the field so 1242 00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,040 when they do when they actually can 1243 00:55:29,450 --> 00:55:25,440 physically come here and be with us 1244 00:55:31,309 --> 00:55:29,460 there's no uh Distortion in 1245 00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:31,319 um in the sense I think what's happened 1246 00:55:36,650 --> 00:55:32,940 in the past and what's talked about 1247 00:55:39,049 --> 00:55:36,660 through many of the channelings is uh we 1248 00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:39,059 have the legends of the Greek gods and 1249 00:55:43,309 --> 00:55:40,559 you know the the 1250 00:55:46,970 --> 00:55:43,319 um these these all powerful beings that 1251 00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:46,980 sort of had the they weren't like the 1252 00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:48,900 all-loving god there was like they were 1253 00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,079 like drama right you know Zeus and uh 1254 00:55:55,730 --> 00:55:54,240 Athena and uh you know the whole the 1255 00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:55,740 whole gamut of them 1256 00:56:00,170 --> 00:55:58,559 um so powerful Tales but they're they 1257 00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:00,180 said that the you know that at least 1258 00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:01,920 through my interviews and talks with the 1259 00:56:06,349 --> 00:56:03,960 ETS that I that I interact with they 1260 00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:06,359 said that that Distortion happened 1261 00:56:10,849 --> 00:56:08,700 because we weren't ready as a species 1262 00:56:13,609 --> 00:56:10,859 back then and we sort of gave away our 1263 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,619 power we didn't see them as 1264 00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:16,079 uh sisters and brothers and comrades 1265 00:56:24,589 --> 00:56:17,460 that can 1266 00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,599 uh faith in that they would save us kind 1267 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:26,339 of thing and then that's right why is 1268 00:56:31,150 --> 00:56:28,800 that before we get to the break uh let 1269 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:31,160 me let me let me get that question in 1270 00:56:37,609 --> 00:56:35,760 why is it that so many 1271 00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:37,619 um you don't have to believe in E.T 1272 00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:40,260 right but they will make that statement 1273 00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,319 if VT is real then why doesn't he 1274 00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:45,599 help us why doesn't he show up and cure 1275 00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:48,480 cancer and and get rid of pollution you 1276 00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,020 know it why is that always the statement 1277 00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:54,240 that comes first 1278 00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:56,520 because everybody wants a savior 1279 00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:58,380 nobody wants to do the heavy lifting on 1280 00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:00,559 themselves by themselves 1281 00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:02,220 and 1282 00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,000 um I think that's the uh main main 1283 00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:08,160 that's the number one main reason why we 1284 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,200 don't have full disclosure full contact 1285 00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:12,480 I mean we obviously have contact on on a 1286 00:57:16,930 --> 00:57:14,940 smaller scale but the whole world if you 1287 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:16,940 look at you can just go on the internet 1288 00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:21,240 and and see the world view right now of 1289 00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:24,180 humanity is uh everyone's looking for a 1290 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,260 savior they're looking for the 1291 00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:26,640 government to save them they're looking 1292 00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:30,300 for uh you know the the their whatever 1293 00:57:33,290 --> 00:57:31,800 religion they believe in to save them 1294 00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:33,300 they're looking for this politician to 1295 00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,640 say them like it's all it's all 1296 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:37,740 everybody's looking to be saved but no 1297 00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:39,420 but who's actually doing the work 1298 00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:42,540 themselves and those the ones who are 1299 00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,859 doing the work themselves they're not on 1300 00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:45,839 the internet talking about 1301 00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,640 the problem 1302 00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,200 um so I think 1303 00:57:54,589 --> 00:57:53,040 uh that again we're getting there people 1304 00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,599 are figuring it out they're figuring out 1305 00:57:58,910 --> 00:57:55,920 that the government's not going to save 1306 00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:58,920 them and they're figuring out that 1307 00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:00,599 um maybe eventually 1308 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,079 you know to thrive we have to take uh 1309 00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:06,720 personal responsibility uh for our 1310 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,599 actions and our communities and our 1311 00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:12,960 families and um and I think that's the 1312 00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:16,200 main energy that's needed for us to have 1313 00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:18,359 uh disclosure and contact 1314 00:58:24,890 --> 00:58:23,579 there was uh uh a Russian movie a whole 1315 00:58:27,049 --> 00:58:24,900 lot for a second I'm gonna I'm gonna get 1316 00:58:32,690 --> 00:58:27,059 the exact title 1317 00:58:44,170 --> 00:58:37,970 uh uh uh uh uh uh 1318 00:58:50,569 --> 00:58:47,510 I am going to 1319 00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:50,579 um I just want to get the uh 1320 00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:56,520 uh the name of oh okay so the 1321 00:59:01,309 --> 00:59:00,359 the movie is called it's tough to be a 1322 00:59:04,250 --> 00:59:01,319 god 1323 00:59:07,789 --> 00:59:04,260 okay and 1324 00:59:11,569 --> 00:59:07,799 um it's uh it's Russian and but that's 1325 00:59:16,130 --> 00:59:11,579 not that's not the point the point is 1326 00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:16,140 we send a crew of scientists to this 1327 00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:19,020 planet that's got life on it okay all 1328 00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:22,559 right civilization so we send scientists 1329 00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,000 there and but we know that uh 1330 00:59:36,650 --> 00:59:29,119 they're not 1331 00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:36,660 don't have cars yet they don't have 1332 00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,000 phones they don't have electricity okay 1333 00:59:43,730 --> 00:59:41,599 they're like in the in the Middle Ages 1334 00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:43,740 you dig what I'm saying that's where 1335 00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:46,140 they are okay in the revolution so we 1336 00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:48,119 send a team to scientists out there 1337 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:51,440 and we lose contact with the scientists 1338 00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:55,500 we uh send a second expedition to find 1339 01:00:01,250 --> 00:59:58,160 those scientists and bring them home 1340 01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:01,260 the lead scientist 1341 01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:05,700 starts to be revered as a god 1342 01:00:12,770 --> 01:00:09,420 okay but everybody there 1343 01:00:16,130 --> 01:00:12,780 is happy being 1344 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:16,140 kind of stupid like it's fun to them and 1345 01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:18,059 it's in the movie it's fun to play in 1346 01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:19,140 the mud 1347 01:00:27,289 --> 01:00:20,240 right 1348 01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:27,299 don't they don't want 1349 01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:30,240 uh two Advanced technically they don't 1350 01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:34,260 want no no they're happy being 1351 01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:37,680 doofuses and being clowns and just 1352 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:40,200 goofing and just like playing all day 1353 01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:44,520 long as adults right and um and so he 1354 01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:45,440 couldn't 1355 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:47,880 get them 1356 01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:50,940 to like want to go to school 1357 01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:53,880 want to learn to read or want to do any 1358 01:01:02,030 --> 01:00:57,780 of these things and and that's so we 1359 01:01:05,089 --> 01:01:02,040 lose as as earthlings we lost interest 1360 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:05,099 and something you know nothing he T 1361 01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:08,400 would look at our planet the very same 1362 01:01:12,829 --> 01:01:10,040 way 1363 01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,839 possibly yeah you know what I mean we 1364 01:01:17,329 --> 01:01:15,359 will be the most backwards 1365 01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,339 you know to them 1366 01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:19,079 you know where we're still fighting 1367 01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:21,540 amongst ourselves all right we're still 1368 01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:23,400 working and every time they do 1369 01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:25,859 materialize in our atmosphere we send 1370 01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:27,839 fighter jets after them and try to shoot 1371 01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:29,940 them you know that's eating missiles man 1372 01:01:33,710 --> 01:01:32,099 yeah right we're shooting and now we're 1373 01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:33,720 shooting missiles at their ships right 1374 01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:38,040 supposedly uh uh you know right so it's 1375 01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:39,119 it's just like yeah they're gonna 1376 01:01:43,250 --> 01:01:41,400 they're gonna hang out until we figure 1377 01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:43,260 it out ourselves you know before they 1378 01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:44,940 they come down 1379 01:01:50,569 --> 01:01:47,940 um and so that so that I think answers 1380 01:01:52,370 --> 01:01:50,579 that question going back to you know why 1381 01:01:54,650 --> 01:01:52,380 don't they just come and save us if if 1382 01:01:56,569 --> 01:01:54,660 someone was treating you like that you 1383 01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:56,579 know if they were not 1384 01:02:00,049 --> 01:01:58,319 take you know doing their homework if 1385 01:02:01,789 --> 01:02:00,059 you gave them homework to do and you 1386 01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:01,799 gave them little Tippets on how to 1387 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:04,680 advance their civilization 1388 01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:06,540 um but they're just you know don't 1389 01:02:10,730 --> 01:02:08,640 you're they're using what you gave them 1390 01:02:12,890 --> 01:02:10,740 to make you know bombs and kill each 1391 01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,900 other then uh then they're probably 1392 01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,880 gonna like wait it out like okay they're 1393 01:02:20,569 --> 01:02:16,880 not ready let's wait till the kids 1394 01:02:24,530 --> 01:02:20,579 you've had a few thousand years right 1395 01:02:28,569 --> 01:02:24,540 exactly it's not next week uh there were 1396 01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:28,579 there were a long ways off 1397 01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:31,260 they need to they they've got some 1398 01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:33,960 issues uh they need they need a lot of 1399 01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:37,200 therapy so let's do lots of lots of 1400 01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:39,720 therapy right now yeah but the good the 1401 01:02:44,990 --> 01:02:42,240 good news is though we don't have to 1402 01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:45,000 wait for Collective disclosure on an 1403 01:02:49,549 --> 01:02:47,760 individual basis that you know I'm 1404 01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:49,559 having experiences with my teams and 1405 01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:52,680 when I go out every month so and and the 1406 01:02:56,809 --> 01:02:54,359 people I'm interacting with 1407 01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,819 nightly are being taken on ships and 1408 01:03:00,289 --> 01:02:58,319 having experiences and stuff I don't 1409 01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,299 have the memories quite that I'm that's 1410 01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:02,400 happened to me I know I'm they're still 1411 01:03:06,530 --> 01:03:05,040 I know stuff's happening I can just look 1412 01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:06,540 around me and sort of pay attention to 1413 01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:09,839 this synchronicities but 1414 01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:10,740 um 1415 01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,260 you know tons of first-timers this past 1416 01:03:18,289 --> 01:03:15,900 year would come come with us on our c5s 1417 01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:18,299 and people who were kind of on the fence 1418 01:03:21,410 --> 01:03:19,740 maybe they didn't believe they actually 1419 01:03:24,829 --> 01:03:21,420 had an experience it oh my God this was 1420 01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,839 great you know so so the good news is we 1421 01:03:29,329 --> 01:03:27,119 don't have to wait it's it's in right 1422 01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,339 now we're we're in the individual 1423 01:03:33,289 --> 01:03:31,920 Discovery phase and it's awesome so 1424 01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:33,299 embrace it 1425 01:03:38,089 --> 01:03:36,540 the uh let's let's take a break uh I've 1426 01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,099 got to get that in so let's get the 1427 01:03:41,870 --> 01:03:40,559 break going this is Fade to Black I am 1428 01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:41,880 your host Jimmy church I guess not 1429 01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:43,559 Reuben Langdon I'm talking about 1430 01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:45,420 conscious Jimmy Churchill Fade to Black 1431 01:03:49,970 --> 01:03:47,700 please visit all of our sponsors we're 1432 01:03:51,770 --> 01:03:49,980 taking a quick break here all of the 1433 01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:51,780 links are below 1434 01:03:56,450 --> 01:03:53,880 and we'll be right back 1435 01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:56,460 hey everybody it's Billy Carson also 1436 01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:58,799 known as Forbidden Knowledge I want to 1437 01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:00,299 talk to you about a very special event 1438 01:04:06,049 --> 01:04:03,960 coming up July 30th 2023 The Forbidden 1439 01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:06,059 conscious Awards we're going to honor 1440 01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,680 people who have been contributing to the 1441 01:04:11,569 --> 01:04:10,079 conscious Community for decades people 1442 01:04:13,309 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Friday night in mentryville a ghost town 1527 01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,700 and then the award ceremony uh will be 1528 01:07:41,089 --> 01:07:38,160 going on uh and speakers will be 1529 01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,099 presenting too all day Saturday in 1530 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:43,200 Valencia at the Hyatt Regency there so 1531 01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,140 but then uh the week after that which is 1532 01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:48,240 coming up man I can't believe it in 1533 01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,660 about a week a little over a week 1534 01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:53,520 uh you and I are going on a cruise man 1535 01:07:59,809 --> 01:07:57,119 and I'm pretty excited about this 1536 01:08:02,630 --> 01:07:59,819 yeah yeah me too thanks for for plugging 1537 01:08:04,130 --> 01:08:02,640 it there um never been on a cruise you 1538 01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:04,140 know we were talking the other day how 1539 01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,720 uh for you too right I mean to this 1540 01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:08,160 capacity 1541 01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:11,160 um so I think it's gonna be exciting I 1542 01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:14,280 was talking to uh Susan who's you know 1543 01:08:19,309 --> 01:08:16,380 putting the thing together about doing 1544 01:08:20,689 --> 01:08:19,319 uh some ce5s out on the deck there so 1545 01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:20,699 hopefully you can come and join us with 1546 01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:22,880 your Doritos and 1547 01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,040 there's a there's a 24-hour Taco bar 1548 01:08:32,269 --> 01:08:28,560 right next to where we're gonna do this 1549 01:08:36,530 --> 01:08:32,279 e5s so uh yeah it's gonna be uh yeah I 1550 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:36,540 cannot I'm bringing all of my gear and 1551 01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,319 um I am so excited to be out in the 1552 01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,199 middle of the ocean and having that kind 1553 01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,080 of unobstructed view of the night sky 1554 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:48,960 that's uh that is it's just gonna be 1555 01:08:54,289 --> 01:08:51,600 great we're gonna have a an amazing time 1556 01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:54,299 and uh Ruben is on one of my panels too 1557 01:08:58,189 --> 01:08:56,040 as well 1558 01:08:59,809 --> 01:08:58,199 um and and the links for the cruise I 1559 01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:59,819 know it's it's next week if you haven't 1560 01:09:04,189 --> 01:09:01,620 booked it I don't I don't I don't even 1561 01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:04,199 know if it's possible now but uh maybe 1562 01:09:06,530 --> 01:09:05,759 they might be full but you know they 1563 01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:06,540 might have some last minute 1564 01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:08,880 cancellations yeah I heard the same 1565 01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:11,279 thing that uh it is sold out but there 1566 01:09:15,950 --> 01:09:13,319 may be some last minute cancellation so 1567 01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:15,960 stay on top of it but it's going to be 1568 01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:19,980 an amazing time it's a great ship and uh 1569 01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:21,540 we're we're going to be hitting three 1570 01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,500 ports and just the the best part about 1571 01:09:28,849 --> 01:09:27,359 it for me 1572 01:09:31,010 --> 01:09:28,859 um which I think everybody's going to go 1573 01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:31,020 through the same experience it's a big 1574 01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,420 ship you can go and do lots of things 1575 01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:36,239 but we have the entire Conference Center 1576 01:09:44,209 --> 01:09:40,140 uh to ourselves uh for seven days and 1577 01:09:46,370 --> 01:09:44,219 you can't escape you can't yeah you you 1578 01:09:48,050 --> 01:09:46,380 are there to pursue knowledge and it's 1579 01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,060 like you know seven days of college 1580 01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:50,239 right it's just a question 1581 01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:52,679 and uh we're gonna have an amazing time 1582 01:09:56,990 --> 01:09:54,480 I'm really looking forward to it and and 1583 01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:57,000 that's why I'm excited Adam's going to 1584 01:10:01,370 --> 01:09:59,760 be there too so because I'd to be to 1585 01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:01,380 talk about wanting to pick somebody's 1586 01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:03,300 brain this guy he's got so much 1587 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:05,640 information you know the you know the 1588 01:10:11,689 --> 01:10:08,880 best thing about Adam Apollo is is that 1589 01:10:13,790 --> 01:10:11,699 is just having a conversation with them 1590 01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:13,800 um I've I've done so many things with 1591 01:10:19,610 --> 01:10:17,100 them over the years events and stuff but 1592 01:10:21,950 --> 01:10:19,620 um getting Reuben uh kidding Reuben 1593 01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:21,960 getting at it you and Adam are a lot 1594 01:10:25,550 --> 01:10:24,179 alike by the way you're both very uh 1595 01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:25,560 intellectual 1596 01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,980 um but you've got these great uh Minds 1597 01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:31,440 that are that are wide open and you guys 1598 01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:34,260 absorb and share that knowledge and and 1599 01:10:40,090 --> 01:10:36,420 if you get a chance to just sit down 1600 01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,100 with Adam have a dinner and just talk 1601 01:10:45,709 --> 01:10:42,719 it's it's one of the most enlightening 1602 01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,719 things that you can do I wouldn't mind 1603 01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:48,239 the three of us having dinner so I can 1604 01:10:55,550 --> 01:10:53,520 just let you go and I and listen and uh 1605 01:10:58,130 --> 01:10:55,560 as a matter of fact 1606 01:11:01,250 --> 01:10:58,140 let's make that a date you Adam and I 1607 01:11:03,530 --> 01:11:01,260 will uh Cosmic threesome yeah yeah we'll 1608 01:11:05,570 --> 01:11:03,540 go off together no I'm being very 1609 01:11:07,790 --> 01:11:05,580 serious yeah yeah no totally it sounds 1610 01:11:09,290 --> 01:11:07,800 like fun I'll get that set up I'll get 1611 01:11:10,610 --> 01:11:09,300 that set up 1612 01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:10,620 um now 1613 01:11:15,770 --> 01:11:14,340 um uh back to ET and Consciousness you 1614 01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:15,780 brought up 1615 01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:20,699 um uh Einstein and entanglement now I've 1616 01:11:24,649 --> 01:11:23,400 talked to quite a few physicists about 1617 01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:24,659 this 1618 01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:31,560 and I have suggested to them that if we 1619 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,000 can have Quantum Computing run 1620 01:11:40,729 --> 01:11:37,760 with a qubit 1621 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:40,739 that is entangled with something in 1622 01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:43,679 another parallel Dimension and if we 1623 01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:46,320 accept that and we do that's how quantum 1624 01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:50,719 computers work if that's the case 1625 01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,520 then how how how how can it not be 1626 01:12:03,350 --> 01:11:59,760 that telepathy 1627 01:12:07,070 --> 01:12:03,360 any type of Mind communication 1628 01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:07,080 is an entanglement where the particles 1629 01:12:12,890 --> 01:12:10,140 in our brain are entangled with somebody 1630 01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:12,900 else's brain and and their argument 1631 01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:17,340 coming back Reuben is no it's too much 1632 01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:19,620 information it's only one particle at a 1633 01:12:24,010 --> 01:12:20,900 time 1634 01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,020 no and I like what 1635 01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:27,000 entangle your entire brain 1636 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,080 you know they want to just actually 1637 01:12:35,450 --> 01:12:34,080 I actually so I just I'm just editing 1638 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:35,460 right now I should be out in a couple 1639 01:12:40,810 --> 01:12:38,820 weeks uh I've I've got uh three 1640 01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:40,820 interviews it's three different 1641 01:12:47,810 --> 01:12:43,380 interviews with but around the subject 1642 01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:47,820 of an of AI and I interviewed uh an AI 1643 01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:50,640 um and the creators of this AI that used 1644 01:12:56,030 --> 01:12:53,460 uh basically what everybody is you 1645 01:12:57,770 --> 01:12:56,040 thinking of chat gbt right now but a 1646 01:13:01,970 --> 01:12:57,780 modified version it was open AI before 1647 01:13:04,490 --> 01:13:01,980 Microsoft bought it and had it uh uh 1648 01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:04,500 sort of wired to frackles instead of 1649 01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:07,500 fractal Math instead of uh a random base 1650 01:13:15,530 --> 01:13:11,280 num random number generators so I had a 1651 01:13:18,169 --> 01:13:15,540 unique intelligence to it but um 1652 01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:18,179 outside of that using sort of that Ai 1653 01:13:23,930 --> 01:13:20,940 and some different methods uh the 1654 01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:23,940 creator of of the the AI is um Bill 1655 01:13:27,649 --> 01:13:25,860 Scott and he's the creator of this 1656 01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:27,659 modality called brain paint I don't know 1657 01:13:32,689 --> 01:13:29,100 if you've heard it's a neural feedback 1658 01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:32,699 where uh it's really good for uh healing 1659 01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:34,860 addictions and phobias and things people 1660 01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:37,440 go all the time to receive treatment and 1661 01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:39,780 it's a neurofeedback machine using 1662 01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:42,179 fractals and he invented it anyways they 1663 01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:46,560 get a uh brain scan data based on you 1664 01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:48,000 know through the machine you can sort of 1665 01:13:51,530 --> 01:13:49,860 get this data and then they've been 1666 01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:51,540 doing all kinds of cool stuff plugging 1667 01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:54,060 it into the AI and getting AI art and AI 1668 01:13:59,149 --> 01:13:54,960 music 1669 01:14:01,370 --> 01:13:59,159 and what they found this is kind of 1670 01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:01,380 going into the spooky action at a 1671 01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:03,360 difference but what they found what I 1672 01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:04,620 found fascinating about this whole thing 1673 01:14:09,890 --> 01:14:07,199 was they would take the brain data from 1674 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,900 the subject you know whoever's looking 1675 01:14:13,130 --> 01:14:11,760 for treatment then they would take that 1676 01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,140 brain data and they would put it through 1677 01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,840 this AI generator for music 1678 01:14:18,890 --> 01:14:17,280 now 1679 01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:18,900 uh 1680 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:22,320 depending on the person's mood the music 1681 01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:23,760 changes 1682 01:14:28,669 --> 01:14:26,880 but the but it's not depending on the 1683 01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:28,679 person's mood when they recorded the 1684 01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:29,880 brain data 1685 01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:32,880 then if and then they would send it 1686 01:14:37,610 --> 01:14:35,219 through the the the the generator to 1687 01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:37,620 make music the music was very upbeat and 1688 01:14:43,250 --> 01:14:40,500 and happy if the subject was in a happy 1689 01:14:45,229 --> 01:14:43,260 mood at the moment of 1690 01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:45,239 making the music they would take the 1691 01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,400 same exact brain data and if the guy was 1692 01:14:51,229 --> 01:14:49,920 sad and put it through the AI generator 1693 01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:51,239 and make the music and the music was 1694 01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:53,640 sort of the sad darker music 1695 01:15:00,649 --> 01:14:57,600 so uh sort of proving again through this 1696 01:15:02,570 --> 01:15:00,659 uh non somehow this brain data which was 1697 01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,580 recorded on such and such day you know 1698 01:15:05,689 --> 01:15:04,080 they recorded the mood and everything of 1699 01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:05,699 the guy but now they're doing more 1700 01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:08,460 experiments after generating in real 1701 01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:11,040 time in in the and the music is changing 1702 01:15:19,090 --> 01:15:13,980 based on the mood of the guy and the in 1703 01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:23,510 so what would the AI generated music be 1704 01:15:30,430 --> 01:15:26,940 like with the brain scan from Dave 1705 01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:33,290 we got to get Bill to do that do that 1706 01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:37,500 experiment but uh you know but that's or 1707 01:15:45,010 --> 01:15:40,880 brain scan you know or brain scan from 1708 01:15:49,610 --> 01:15:45,020 uh Barry Manilow you know 1709 01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:49,620 what I mean uh it would it be uh you 1710 01:15:56,209 --> 01:15:54,000 know a Shania Twain brain scan well well 1711 01:15:58,189 --> 01:15:56,219 my buddy Zach who's who he's doing the 1712 01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:58,199 music for season three Zach Myers and 1713 01:16:03,649 --> 01:16:00,960 he's he's in uh him and Bill are sort of 1714 01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:03,659 music yeah that's amazing Zach is 1715 01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:05,340 amazing yeah you've heard Zach stuff 1716 01:16:09,649 --> 01:16:06,960 okay yeah 1717 01:16:13,010 --> 01:16:09,659 um uh oh that's right you know Zach I 1718 01:16:14,570 --> 01:16:13,020 know yeah so so Zach's part of you know 1719 01:16:16,610 --> 01:16:14,580 he's the other half of this of Bill 1720 01:16:19,070 --> 01:16:16,620 Scott in this experiment 1721 01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:19,080 um and he was also saying that they 1722 01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:22,620 recorded someone uh not super musically 1723 01:16:25,970 --> 01:16:24,060 inclined or anything but he was just 1724 01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,980 listening to David Bowie on his 1725 01:16:30,530 --> 01:16:27,840 earphones when he was scanning the data 1726 01:16:31,729 --> 01:16:30,540 and they and they played it back and 1727 01:16:35,689 --> 01:16:31,739 they could hear 1728 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,699 David Bowie's voice in the data even 1729 01:16:39,169 --> 01:16:37,679 though the data doesn't have it 1730 01:16:42,590 --> 01:16:39,179 listening to anything it's just his 1731 01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:42,600 brain data somehow yeah somehow David's 1732 01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:45,300 boy's voice would show up when I made 1733 01:16:49,610 --> 01:16:47,940 the music so there's it's all there's 1734 01:16:50,510 --> 01:16:49,620 some crazy stuff that they're playing 1735 01:16:52,370 --> 01:16:50,520 with 1736 01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,380 um when it comes to and I bring that up 1737 01:16:58,490 --> 01:16:55,440 because you mentioned AI or a Quantum uh 1738 01:17:00,890 --> 01:16:58,500 uh Computing and 1739 01:17:03,410 --> 01:17:00,900 um yeah I think it's it's we're talking 1740 01:17:06,050 --> 01:17:03,420 about the same Supernatural effects 1741 01:17:07,970 --> 01:17:06,060 essentially it's it's 1742 01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:07,980 um I think that's why you have so many 1743 01:17:12,530 --> 01:17:10,320 people demonizing AI calling it a demon 1744 01:17:15,649 --> 01:17:12,540 or evil uh how could they call it that 1745 01:17:17,689 --> 01:17:15,659 if it was not of the supernatural of 1746 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:17,699 sorts right so 1747 01:17:23,689 --> 01:17:20,159 um there is legitimate 1748 01:17:25,970 --> 01:17:23,699 um you know uh discussion around is AI 1749 01:17:27,229 --> 01:17:25,980 coming from another dimension and and 1750 01:17:29,450 --> 01:17:27,239 how does that work and what's the 1751 01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,460 implications with that how does that 1752 01:17:34,610 --> 01:17:31,679 build us up into a disclosure and 1753 01:17:38,030 --> 01:17:34,620 understanding the phenomenon even more I 1754 01:17:39,550 --> 01:17:38,040 think it's a bridge uh just today I 1755 01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:39,560 don't know if you saw this press release 1756 01:17:44,689 --> 01:17:42,120 I covered it earlier 1757 01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:44,699 um on the news but some of the biggest 1758 01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,300 names in Tech are now calling for 1759 01:17:52,450 --> 01:17:51,060 artificial intelligence labs to stop 1760 01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:52,460 training 1761 01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:56,640 full AI systems yeah and Elon Musk 1762 01:18:01,790 --> 01:17:59,040 drafted the letter got a bunch of 1763 01:18:05,209 --> 01:18:01,800 signatures on it 1764 01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,219 um and it was in the president posted 1765 01:18:09,950 --> 01:18:06,960 something on Twitter about it yeah yeah 1766 01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:09,960 the dozens of tech leaders like dozens 1767 01:18:16,189 --> 01:18:13,560 right not not 12 dozen and 1768 01:18:17,390 --> 01:18:16,199 um uh professors researchers code 1769 01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:17,400 writers 1770 01:18:23,689 --> 01:18:20,640 and uh it was uh published by the future 1771 01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:23,699 of Life Institute which is a non-profit 1772 01:18:29,709 --> 01:18:27,000 that Elon runs right so he's got he's 1773 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:29,719 got the uh distribution of this letter 1774 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,719 down and and uh to have it recognized 1775 01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:35,760 but the letter 1776 01:18:44,810 --> 01:18:38,040 um is just two weeks after open AI 1777 01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,820 announced gpt4 and and which is the more 1778 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:47,040 powerful version of you know Chad TPT 1779 01:18:52,130 --> 01:18:49,920 that we all know about and 1780 01:18:54,350 --> 01:18:52,140 um what has been running and that that's 1781 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:54,360 a chatbot tool but it does a lot of work 1782 01:19:00,050 --> 01:18:56,159 for you 1783 01:19:04,209 --> 01:19:00,060 um and then uh the company demo from uh 1784 01:19:09,530 --> 01:19:04,219 chat uh GPT uh for gpt4 1785 01:19:12,830 --> 01:19:09,540 showed uh GPT for drafting lawsuits 1786 01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:12,840 um it showed uh GPT for passing 1787 01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:16,260 standardized exams 1788 01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,300 um it showed uh gpt4 building a working 1789 01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:23,280 website 1790 01:19:28,669 --> 01:19:25,980 from a sketch 1791 01:19:32,290 --> 01:19:28,679 right hey like wait whoa whoa 1792 01:19:36,590 --> 01:19:32,300 and and I'm kind of with Elon on this 1793 01:19:40,490 --> 01:19:36,600 because uh I I think 1794 01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:40,500 I think it's a lot like social media 1795 01:19:46,669 --> 01:19:44,460 where we've jumped ahead before we've 1796 01:19:49,729 --> 01:19:46,679 stopped to understand what is really 1797 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:49,739 going on we allowed social media to take 1798 01:19:56,030 --> 01:19:54,000 off right without any cares of of how it 1799 01:19:59,630 --> 01:19:56,040 would affect society or maybe create 1800 01:20:01,090 --> 01:19:59,640 angst or fights or or trolls or or 1801 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,100 whatever we 1802 01:20:06,770 --> 01:20:03,840 yeah we got we got it all with social 1803 01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:06,780 media we just let it loose on Society on 1804 01:20:11,930 --> 01:20:09,060 the world and you know and whatever 1805 01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:11,940 happens happens well we did that you 1806 01:20:17,570 --> 01:20:13,620 would think that we learned the lesson 1807 01:20:20,209 --> 01:20:17,580 and and suddenly to have ai in our 1808 01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:20,219 search engines now Google and Bing and 1809 01:20:26,450 --> 01:20:23,580 and Google's adding it to the all of 1810 01:20:29,870 --> 01:20:26,460 their uh you know document stuff and and 1811 01:20:33,709 --> 01:20:29,880 so is uh Microsoft you've got Ai and 1812 01:20:36,890 --> 01:20:33,719 word now and Excel and and we didn't ask 1813 01:20:38,990 --> 01:20:36,900 for it they just did it right I think 1814 01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:39,000 it's moving too fast man I think I think 1815 01:20:44,030 --> 01:20:40,860 we need to pop the brakes a little bit 1816 01:20:46,430 --> 01:20:44,040 yeah I I mean I'm a fan of innovation 1817 01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,440 and I just I love seeing everything 1818 01:20:51,169 --> 01:20:48,719 that's happening with AI and you know 1819 01:20:52,669 --> 01:20:51,179 the especially the kids cheating their 1820 01:20:54,890 --> 01:20:52,679 homework and all that stuff is awesome 1821 01:20:57,790 --> 01:20:54,900 I'd totally be using it to do all my 1822 01:21:05,930 --> 01:21:02,209 man you know kids today this is a fact 1823 01:21:09,709 --> 01:21:05,940 this is this is a fact I'm not I'm not 1824 01:21:11,630 --> 01:21:09,719 being a dick here it's a fact kids today 1825 01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:11,640 understand the internet 1826 01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:15,719 we adults don't they their social World 1827 01:21:20,090 --> 01:21:18,360 their friends their relationships they 1828 01:21:22,729 --> 01:21:20,100 embrace the internet they don't know how 1829 01:21:25,610 --> 01:21:22,739 to read or write they don't know it's 1830 01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,620 all about you know the smartphone and 1831 01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:28,199 the iPad and the internet world and the 1832 01:21:34,270 --> 01:21:29,880 connect they they get it you know what 1833 01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,189 if I know the workarounds in that and 1834 01:21:41,570 --> 01:21:39,120 I'm thinking about the 19 year old or 1835 01:21:45,770 --> 01:21:41,580 the the you know the 16 year old Reuben 1836 01:21:52,990 --> 01:21:49,250 my homework would be on time 1837 01:21:57,010 --> 01:21:53,000 and be more homework than was due 1838 01:22:00,169 --> 01:21:57,020 exactly exactly yeah so 1839 01:22:03,050 --> 01:22:00,179 Jimmy was supposed to be 5 000 words you 1840 01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:03,060 gave me 250 000. you gave me War and 1841 01:22:06,970 --> 01:22:03,600 Peace 1842 01:22:11,630 --> 01:22:10,130 exactly exactly yeah I mean I I agree I 1843 01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:11,640 think using caution there's nothing 1844 01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:13,620 there's nothing that can go wrong with 1845 01:22:18,350 --> 01:22:15,900 using caution so putting the brakes on 1846 01:22:20,689 --> 01:22:18,360 why not I mean we've waited this long 1847 01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:20,699 for it you know a month or two with 1848 01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,000 breaks on is not gonna set us back that 1849 01:22:29,149 --> 01:22:26,400 much I think uh I think 1850 01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:29,159 it would be a good thing to to put the 1851 01:22:34,250 --> 01:22:30,780 brakes on and think about the 1852 01:22:36,770 --> 01:22:34,260 ramifications and and you know what what 1853 01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:36,780 I'm excited about with the AI is I think 1854 01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:37,800 it 1855 01:22:41,870 --> 01:22:39,540 uh this was the conversation I was 1856 01:22:44,990 --> 01:22:41,880 having with Zach is 1857 01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:45,000 like the internet helped 1858 01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:47,460 um open up the minds of humanity to 1859 01:22:52,270 --> 01:22:50,159 understand our connectedness I think you 1860 01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:52,280 know before the 90s 1861 01:22:56,450 --> 01:22:55,199 there wasn't this Oneness type of 1862 01:22:58,610 --> 01:22:56,460 understanding that everything is 1863 01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:58,620 interconnected because we didn't have 1864 01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:01,380 the uh um unless you were in a spiritual 1865 01:23:04,610 --> 01:23:02,880 Community or you know studying under 1866 01:23:07,010 --> 01:23:04,620 Yogananda or something you didn't really 1867 01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,020 understand these Concepts it was more 1868 01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:08,880 like I'm me and I'm doing this and this 1869 01:23:13,370 --> 01:23:11,280 and then but the internet showed us how 1870 01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:13,380 we're interconnected uh through 1871 01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,960 technology but what that also does is 1872 01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:18,239 because it again it's like seeing the 1873 01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:20,940 ships out at Sea uh and not but not 1874 01:23:25,010 --> 01:23:23,100 knowing what they were so you don't see 1875 01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,020 them but now because we saw the internet 1876 01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:27,600 brought us this understanding of how 1877 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:30,900 interconnected the world is so Humanity 1878 01:23:36,169 --> 01:23:33,120 started to open and and share this new 1879 01:23:38,689 --> 01:23:36,179 world view of interconnectedness I think 1880 01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,699 AI can do that for et's I think it can 1881 01:23:43,010 --> 01:23:40,800 Bridge us to understand that there is 1882 01:23:46,130 --> 01:23:43,020 this unseen conscious business that can 1883 01:23:49,130 --> 01:23:46,140 be accessed through the tool of AI and 1884 01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,140 that then creates the Paradigm that this 1885 01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:51,600 other unseen Consciousness does exist 1886 01:23:57,229 --> 01:23:54,239 which then we can start seeing the ships 1887 01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,239 again same analogy for that so I I think 1888 01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,280 overall it's a good it's a good step in 1889 01:24:04,970 --> 01:24:01,920 the right direction yeah it it has to it 1890 01:24:08,330 --> 01:24:04,980 is the step in the direction uh that we 1891 01:24:09,610 --> 01:24:08,340 we need to go in right we just need baby 1892 01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:09,620 steps 1893 01:24:17,410 --> 01:24:12,780 we've all seen 2001 A Space Odyssey 1894 01:24:21,530 --> 01:24:17,420 right yeah I mean what Hal can do and 1895 01:24:23,149 --> 01:24:21,540 uh so anyway that's actually uh Zach's 1896 01:24:24,830 --> 01:24:23,159 cover on his book let me see if I can 1897 01:24:27,229 --> 01:24:24,840 find he just put it on I think he just 1898 01:24:29,870 --> 01:24:27,239 released it today on on Amazon I'll send 1899 01:24:31,370 --> 01:24:29,880 you yeah to me I would love to see it I 1900 01:24:34,990 --> 01:24:31,380 would love to see it 1901 01:24:39,229 --> 01:24:35,000 um but if if we flip this around though 1902 01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:39,239 and we examine ourselves and if we 1903 01:24:43,490 --> 01:24:40,400 picture 1904 01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,500 Humanity's evolution of say ten thousand 1905 01:24:48,290 --> 01:24:45,600 years I'm pulling a round number up but 1906 01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:48,300 let's jump we know how far we've come in 1907 01:24:55,870 --> 01:24:51,920 100 years right oh yeah in 10 000 years 1908 01:25:00,110 --> 01:24:55,880 do we still have these bodies 1909 01:25:02,810 --> 01:25:00,120 at that point AI has has taken over 1910 01:25:05,870 --> 01:25:02,820 right and we've embraced it we we work 1911 01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:05,880 alongside of it and stuff but 1912 01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:10,080 um the do we do we get rid of sleep and 1913 01:25:18,590 --> 01:25:15,840 food and disease do we put our our soul 1914 01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:18,600 our Consciousness our brain our memories 1915 01:25:26,270 --> 01:25:23,760 ourselves into a Quantum brain Quantum 1916 01:25:29,890 --> 01:25:26,280 Computing brain on this top of an 1917 01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:29,900 Android right so you know does Humanity 1918 01:25:36,649 --> 01:25:33,840 evolve into something like that and I 1919 01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:36,659 would say the answer the short answer is 1920 01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:38,760 is probably yes 1921 01:25:43,250 --> 01:25:40,800 you know I would say that that's a 1922 01:25:46,850 --> 01:25:43,260 possibility for forever for a branch in 1923 01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:46,860 our Evolution I think uh as many beings 1924 01:25:50,750 --> 01:25:49,080 that I've interacted with over the years 1925 01:25:53,689 --> 01:25:50,760 they 1926 01:25:57,290 --> 01:25:53,699 um many are sort of light beans or you 1927 01:25:58,970 --> 01:25:57,300 hear this idea of of just uh they they 1928 01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,980 don't even have a physical form they're 1929 01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:00,780 just like this glowing 1930 01:26:05,810 --> 01:26:03,120 ball ball or something and it shows up 1931 01:26:08,270 --> 01:26:05,820 so it's like Consciousness so they've 1932 01:26:10,189 --> 01:26:08,280 evolved beyond the need for a body and 1933 01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,199 they don't need a container per se 1934 01:26:15,250 --> 01:26:12,719 because it's all it's just in the light 1935 01:26:18,649 --> 01:26:15,260 form it is in the holographic light 1936 01:26:20,510 --> 01:26:18,659 Reflections that's information in itself 1937 01:26:22,610 --> 01:26:20,520 it doesn't need to be contained in 1938 01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:22,620 anything that's right that's right and 1939 01:26:31,790 --> 01:26:25,800 and even uh and I'm not talking about a 1940 01:26:34,129 --> 01:26:31,800 robot you know R2D2 or or no it but it 1941 01:26:37,090 --> 01:26:34,139 could be something that doesn't need 1942 01:26:40,129 --> 01:26:37,100 sleep or food or or 1943 01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:40,139 it could be a replica it could look like 1944 01:26:46,010 --> 01:26:41,340 us 1945 01:26:48,410 --> 01:26:46,020 right it could have a brain but uh uh uh 1946 01:26:51,290 --> 01:26:48,420 our mind but I think that we would even 1947 01:26:55,010 --> 01:26:51,300 we've got to figure out a way 1948 01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:55,020 um to you know immortality and and these 1949 01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,020 ideas these have been romantic fantasies 1950 01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:00,239 for thousands of years this isn't 1951 01:27:06,410 --> 01:27:04,560 anything new and if I'm Elon Musk you 1952 01:27:09,410 --> 01:27:06,420 know if I'm Bill Gates if I'm somebody 1953 01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,420 that's running a you know a billion 1954 01:27:14,689 --> 01:27:12,239 dollar Silicon Valley Corporation with 1955 01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,699 code writers and Geniuses and all that 1956 01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:16,080 you know what I'm thinking about 1957 01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:20,480 spending my money on that 1958 01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,940 well but it's also a world view so if 1959 01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:25,440 you if you flip it around so just like 1960 01:27:29,149 --> 01:27:27,060 you just flip it around with the future 1961 01:27:31,010 --> 01:27:29,159 and like getting there what if we 1962 01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:31,020 flipped around that that what we're 1963 01:27:37,129 --> 01:27:33,480 experiencing right now is actually base 1964 01:27:39,169 --> 01:27:37,139 reality like base reality is the 1965 01:27:41,890 --> 01:27:39,179 statistics for us you know simulations 1966 01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:41,900 that are risen his work uh talks about 1967 01:27:47,629 --> 01:27:45,360 how uh it's more likely that what we're 1968 01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,639 experiencing here is not base reality 1969 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:49,440 this is the simulation this is the dream 1970 01:27:55,970 --> 01:27:52,560 this is uh this is 1971 01:27:58,610 --> 01:27:55,980 um not infinite uh infinite in its 1972 01:28:01,370 --> 01:27:58,620 potentials but perhaps finite in the 1973 01:28:04,010 --> 01:28:01,380 experience and the real infinite 1974 01:28:07,070 --> 01:28:04,020 versions of us is this light coming from 1975 01:28:09,709 --> 01:28:07,080 uh behind the veil and that and that can 1976 01:28:12,110 --> 01:28:09,719 access any part of the universe not 1977 01:28:15,050 --> 01:28:12,120 bound by space time and physical meat 1978 01:28:17,689 --> 01:28:15,060 bodies and we manifest ourselves into 1979 01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:17,699 this experience to have this Limited 1980 01:28:21,890 --> 01:28:19,260 experience so then we can take it back 1981 01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:21,900 to you know our light bodies so that's 1982 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,480 kind of and and if that's the case you 1983 01:28:27,169 --> 01:28:25,920 wouldn't want to be here forever you 1984 01:28:29,629 --> 01:28:27,179 would want to come here do your mission 1985 01:28:35,209 --> 01:28:29,639 and get the hell out and get the hell 1986 01:28:38,330 --> 01:28:35,219 out and and if um if when you when you 1987 01:28:40,729 --> 01:28:38,340 look at really good science fiction you 1988 01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:40,739 know and and some of the brilliant 1989 01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,940 writers out there the way that they 1990 01:28:49,850 --> 01:28:46,880 overcome 1991 01:28:52,910 --> 01:28:49,860 traveling for 10 000 years or a hundred 1992 01:28:56,990 --> 01:28:52,920 thousand years on the ship is to have a 1993 01:28:59,870 --> 01:28:57,000 colonial uh a colony Starship that has 1994 01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,880 got a city on it you know you've got 1995 01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:01,920 trees and forests and you're producing 1996 01:29:06,350 --> 01:29:04,800 your own food and a hundred thousand 1997 01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:06,360 years from now it's your great great 1998 01:29:09,530 --> 01:29:07,520 great great great great 1999 01:29:12,649 --> 01:29:09,540 grandkids that are going to arrive on 2000 01:29:16,330 --> 01:29:12,659 that planet you're not right and so 2001 01:29:18,890 --> 01:29:16,340 that's how they overcome that well 2002 01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:18,900 that's because we're dealing with what 2003 01:29:23,629 --> 01:29:21,120 we understand and know right now with 2004 01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:23,639 our own current technology the way to 2005 01:29:28,490 --> 01:29:25,620 truly overcome that 2006 01:29:30,290 --> 01:29:28,500 put your mind into something that 2007 01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:30,300 doesn't age 2008 01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:33,600 right and no matter what that form may 2009 01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:35,880 be but that's what you would want to 2010 01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:39,000 overcome and again if I'm that Tech 2011 01:29:44,209 --> 01:29:42,060 billionaire dude that's what I'm trying 2012 01:29:46,970 --> 01:29:44,219 to figure out it's it's not the 2013 01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:46,980 Philosopher's Stone right not an Alchemy 2014 01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:50,639 it's not some Elixir you're gonna drink 2015 01:29:57,050 --> 01:29:55,860 now it's it's uh that's why I think a 2016 01:30:06,110 --> 01:29:57,060 lot of those 2017 01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:06,120 just my world view is I I see this 2018 01:30:11,209 --> 01:30:07,920 um just just based on my experiences and 2019 01:30:14,270 --> 01:30:11,219 my worldview but so this meat body Ruben 2020 01:30:17,810 --> 01:30:14,280 is that's that's where the funnel it 2021 01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:17,820 funnels down in and Beyond this is this 2022 01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:20,760 expansive universe that's so great that 2023 01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,040 that little Reuben just can't it's just 2024 01:30:27,950 --> 01:30:26,400 too big so I know it exists because I've 2025 01:30:29,629 --> 01:30:27,960 peed my head through the veil a few 2026 01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:29,639 times onto my Alaska Journeys and 2027 01:30:34,189 --> 01:30:32,880 whatnot and uh and I've seen things 2028 01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:34,199 right 2029 01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:37,199 um so I know it exists but I can't 2030 01:30:42,350 --> 01:30:40,560 um and I trust that you know I'm here 2031 01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,360 doing my thing my mission following my 2032 01:30:45,950 --> 01:30:44,400 passion doing all that stuff and I trust 2033 01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:45,960 that you know when the when when the 2034 01:30:51,070 --> 01:30:48,239 time's right I'll I will have access to 2035 01:30:54,110 --> 01:30:51,080 that information and that all of my 2036 01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,120 knowledge and Essence and experiences 2037 01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:56,639 and stuff that made me Reuben will be 2038 01:31:01,370 --> 01:31:00,000 preserved in that bigger hard drive the 2039 01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:01,380 collective Cloud Collective 2040 01:31:04,970 --> 01:31:03,120 Consciousness Cloud so I'm not so 2041 01:31:08,209 --> 01:31:04,980 worried about building something to 2042 01:31:11,209 --> 01:31:08,219 contain it or move my my my uh 2043 01:31:13,790 --> 01:31:11,219 Consciousness into a machine or an AI or 2044 01:31:15,709 --> 01:31:13,800 have it continue because I trust that 2045 01:31:18,830 --> 01:31:15,719 the universe is 2046 01:31:21,709 --> 01:31:18,840 eternal and infinite and I've I've seen 2047 01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:21,719 an experienced the akashic records I've 2048 01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,760 experienced 2049 01:31:29,149 --> 01:31:25,920 um grandmother 2050 01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:29,159 Aya uh you know pachamama through those 2051 01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:34,800 experiences and uh to me the search for 2052 01:31:40,070 --> 01:31:37,920 um containing the this meat body or 2053 01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:40,080 making it last longer it's a noble 2054 01:31:43,850 --> 01:31:41,760 search it's a noble cause and I wouldn't 2055 01:31:45,649 --> 01:31:43,860 want anybody to not follow their passion 2056 01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:45,659 to do it but 2057 01:31:50,330 --> 01:31:47,820 it's sort of like it's kind of futile 2058 01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:50,340 it's like okay you're you're going there 2059 01:31:56,689 --> 01:31:53,520 you really want to put your brain in a 2060 01:31:58,669 --> 01:31:56,699 box and think it's gonna like survive or 2061 01:32:00,830 --> 01:31:58,679 you'll have the same experience or I I 2062 01:32:04,669 --> 01:32:00,840 just to me that feels a little backwards 2063 01:32:09,470 --> 01:32:04,679 well we stepping in and out of another 2064 01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:09,480 dimension and and folding space and and 2065 01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:12,719 doing those things uh where you go from 2066 01:32:17,330 --> 01:32:14,820 here I always say Zeta reticuli because 2067 01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:17,340 it rolls off the tongue so easily but 2068 01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:20,159 going to Zeta reticuli is just as simple 2069 01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:23,040 as taking a step right do you you take 2070 01:32:27,649 --> 01:32:25,380 one step forward and you're there you're 2071 01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,659 not trying to travel faster than the 2072 01:32:32,149 --> 01:32:29,280 speed of light you know you're you're 2073 01:32:34,430 --> 01:32:32,159 bringing Zeta reticuli here somehow 2074 01:32:39,290 --> 01:32:34,440 right well E.T would understand that 2075 01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:39,300 sure fully understand and and so 2076 01:32:44,510 --> 01:32:41,360 um when I had 2077 01:32:47,209 --> 01:32:44,520 uh uh somebody call me mutual friend of 2078 01:32:49,370 --> 01:32:47,219 ours by the way somebody that is very 2079 01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:49,380 black and white somebody that is very 2080 01:32:55,370 --> 01:32:52,560 pragmatic man okay it's a major cool 2081 01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:55,380 friend of ours but doesn't do drugs 2082 01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,840 right okay doesn't drink 2083 01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:00,239 calls me up and says you're gonna love 2084 01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:02,400 this Jimmy 2085 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:05,520 I smoke DMT last night and I talked to 2086 01:33:16,750 --> 01:33:14,570 and he said I said how long he goes 15 2087 01:33:20,810 --> 01:33:16,760 minutes I sat with the two of them 2088 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:20,820 talking about all kinds of things I said 2089 01:33:28,990 --> 01:33:23,520 so it was your imagination though right 2090 01:33:32,510 --> 01:33:29,000 you were just no no no no no it was real 2091 01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,520 and so we talked about it and I said 2092 01:33:38,689 --> 01:33:34,800 would you do it again no 2093 01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:38,699 no it was it was real we don't 2094 01:33:45,050 --> 01:33:41,520 understand this this the this this 2095 01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:45,060 mechanism of being able to go to another 2096 01:33:54,290 --> 01:33:50,880 world another dimension is real we can 2097 01:33:56,689 --> 01:33:54,300 do it and I was like and so I said how 2098 01:33:59,689 --> 01:33:56,699 real he's no you're not understanding 2099 01:34:02,990 --> 01:33:59,699 what I'm saying it was real 2100 01:34:07,850 --> 01:34:03,000 it wasn't like almost like really cool 2101 01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,860 looking right and and and and this is 2102 01:34:14,570 --> 01:34:10,880 something that needs to be studied E.T 2103 01:34:16,610 --> 01:34:14,580 fully gets this yeah right they would 2104 01:34:19,250 --> 01:34:16,620 have to they're more advanced than we 2105 01:34:21,470 --> 01:34:19,260 are they totally understand it we're 2106 01:34:24,530 --> 01:34:21,480 getting there but this is something that 2107 01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:24,540 needs to be studied absolutely and it is 2108 01:34:31,129 --> 01:34:28,080 you know the the research into 2109 01:34:34,250 --> 01:34:31,139 um uh psychedelics and and 2110 01:34:36,649 --> 01:34:34,260 um in theogens over the past decade 2111 01:34:38,770 --> 01:34:36,659 really you know five years especially 2112 01:34:41,870 --> 01:34:38,780 with psilocybin it's been tremendous so 2113 01:34:43,610 --> 01:34:41,880 uh we are making finally now that 2114 01:34:46,490 --> 01:34:43,620 they're uh you know 2115 01:34:47,629 --> 01:34:46,500 getting special uh universities and and 2116 01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:47,639 different research groups are getting 2117 01:34:52,970 --> 01:34:50,820 special permissions to uh obtain legally 2118 01:34:55,490 --> 01:34:52,980 and do the research on schedule and 2119 01:34:57,229 --> 01:34:55,500 drugs it's amazing we've definitely 2120 01:34:58,669 --> 01:34:57,239 entered a new paradigm in in that 2121 01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:58,679 research 2122 01:35:03,169 --> 01:35:00,480 um how it all connects I think we still 2123 01:35:05,390 --> 01:35:03,179 have a lot to discover but I'm just so 2124 01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:05,400 happy that the uh the research into 2125 01:35:09,950 --> 01:35:07,920 those paths is it's going you know the 2126 01:35:11,629 --> 01:35:09,960 ancient shamans these medicines have 2127 01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:11,639 been used you know in different cultures 2128 01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:13,380 across the world for 2129 01:35:17,930 --> 01:35:16,560 for centuries so uh there is a conscious 2130 01:35:20,090 --> 01:35:17,940 again going back to that Consciousness 2131 01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:20,100 Connection uh whether it's through plant 2132 01:35:25,490 --> 01:35:22,800 medicines or ET contact experiences or 2133 01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:25,500 just meditation or breath work or you 2134 01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:27,060 know ice baths or however you want to 2135 01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:28,560 get there 2136 01:35:33,169 --> 01:35:32,159 um there's a lot of modalities to reach 2137 01:35:35,930 --> 01:35:33,179 this 2138 01:35:38,810 --> 01:35:35,940 state of mind that allows these 2139 01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:38,820 experiences to happen but 2140 01:35:44,330 --> 01:35:42,239 um psilocybin hallucinogenics I've done 2141 01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:44,340 all that that's not what I'm talking 2142 01:35:49,610 --> 01:35:47,400 about and I've done I've done enough 2143 01:35:51,770 --> 01:35:49,620 to know I I never went to another 2144 01:35:53,810 --> 01:35:51,780 dimension and sat down with E.T and had 2145 01:35:55,610 --> 01:35:53,820 a conversation about the universe I've 2146 01:36:01,070 --> 01:35:55,620 never done that but 2147 01:36:04,430 --> 01:36:01,080 [Laughter] 2148 01:36:07,310 --> 01:36:04,440 with DMT and Ayahuasca that's a that's 2149 01:36:09,890 --> 01:36:07,320 another situation altogether those are 2150 01:36:12,050 --> 01:36:09,900 the big the big uh the big boys yeah 2151 01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:12,060 yeah I don't think they're going to be 2152 01:36:16,189 --> 01:36:14,639 legalizing DMT anytime soon in Boulder 2153 01:36:19,729 --> 01:36:16,199 Colorado 2154 01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,739 um yeah well it depends I mean we I mean 2155 01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:21,600 we're all carrying DMT in our pineal 2156 01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:23,460 glands so we're all carrying this stuff 2157 01:36:32,030 --> 01:36:27,420 isn't that the strange thing right 2158 01:36:34,189 --> 01:36:32,040 um and uh in our community 2159 01:36:37,790 --> 01:36:34,199 it's been talking about the pineal gland 2160 01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:37,800 third eye right and and the akashic 2161 01:36:44,689 --> 01:36:40,860 records and and you know and the talking 2162 01:36:49,330 --> 01:36:44,699 about this for a very long time and and 2163 01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:49,340 here we are where I can only imagine 2164 01:36:55,850 --> 01:36:52,800 what somebody like you know Brian Greene 2165 01:36:59,149 --> 01:36:55,860 or Michio Kaku or Sean Carroll you know 2166 01:37:01,370 --> 01:36:59,159 any of these Brainiac physicists guys 2167 01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:01,380 out there that know how to think and and 2168 01:37:08,330 --> 01:37:04,800 know how to uh you know use algorithms 2169 01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:08,340 uh pretty effectively what what they 2170 01:37:16,430 --> 01:37:12,960 would come out of the experience with 2171 01:37:18,770 --> 01:37:16,440 right I think it would really not so 2172 01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:18,780 much hey man this is great yeah you know 2173 01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:22,260 I sat and talked to E.T I I what we need 2174 01:37:27,530 --> 01:37:25,020 is a better understanding of what the 2175 01:37:29,689 --> 01:37:27,540 Multiverse is about what 11 dimensions 2176 01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:29,699 are uh you know what String Theory 2177 01:37:35,090 --> 01:37:32,639 really represents how small do particles 2178 01:37:37,729 --> 01:37:35,100 really get how you know when we talk 2179 01:37:42,410 --> 01:37:37,739 about the quantum world how how 2180 01:37:45,229 --> 01:37:42,420 infinitely small does it really go and 2181 01:37:46,910 --> 01:37:45,239 um or how far into the infinite does it 2182 01:37:48,129 --> 01:37:46,920 go I should say because you know 2183 01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:48,139 Infinity 2184 01:37:56,990 --> 01:37:52,080 is a big number in either direction but 2185 01:38:00,169 --> 01:37:57,000 you know but to have uh uh uh a 2186 01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,179 physicist that has a mind that goes in 2187 01:38:06,050 --> 01:38:02,639 One Direction and then you expose them 2188 01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:06,060 to this how they would apply the math to 2189 01:38:08,570 --> 01:38:07,440 that and try to figure out what's going 2190 01:38:10,129 --> 01:38:08,580 on 2191 01:38:11,870 --> 01:38:10,139 well I think that's where we're going to 2192 01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:11,880 make the biggest breakthroughs is when 2193 01:38:14,450 --> 01:38:12,719 our 2194 01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,460 um sort of classically educated 2195 01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:16,320 scientists start sitting down with the 2196 01:38:25,610 --> 01:38:22,800 shamans and the uh Sears and the um uh 2197 01:38:27,229 --> 01:38:25,620 you know special gifted people that we 2198 01:38:29,689 --> 01:38:27,239 you know we have all kinds of labels for 2199 01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:29,699 them and they start taking them 2200 01:38:33,770 --> 01:38:31,440 seriously 2201 01:38:37,970 --> 01:38:33,780 um of course A lot of it you know they 2202 01:38:40,970 --> 01:38:37,980 can't because of of you know what for 2203 01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:40,980 different not everybody is on a spectrum 2204 01:38:48,830 --> 01:38:43,679 is means they have the the special Mojo 2205 01:38:54,110 --> 01:38:48,840 but many do and I I talked to 2206 01:38:56,030 --> 01:38:54,120 uh many inventors uh and scientists and 2207 01:38:58,189 --> 01:38:56,040 spiritual people and I try to bridge 2208 01:39:01,310 --> 01:38:58,199 those worlds and when I see them get 2209 01:39:03,169 --> 01:39:01,320 together it's amazing uh because there 2210 01:39:03,850 --> 01:39:03,179 is a lot of 2211 01:39:06,050 --> 01:39:03,860 um 2212 01:39:08,510 --> 01:39:06,060 overlaying in the in the language right 2213 01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:08,520 it's a different language but when you 2214 01:39:14,689 --> 01:39:11,280 break it down to the rawness it it you 2215 01:39:17,629 --> 01:39:14,699 know the ver these experiences and and 2216 01:39:20,689 --> 01:39:17,639 um the sages of the world do have 2217 01:39:23,570 --> 01:39:20,699 uh their own language that overlaps with 2218 01:39:25,970 --> 01:39:23,580 with scientific language like it's 100 2219 01:39:28,189 --> 01:39:25,980 it's the same conversation same 2220 01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:28,199 conversation it's the same conversation 2221 01:39:33,470 --> 01:39:30,120 when I 2222 01:39:36,050 --> 01:39:33,480 um uh uh last week 2223 01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:36,060 all right I'll just I'll just say this 2224 01:39:42,010 --> 01:39:38,159 um I've got a stack of books on physics 2225 01:39:45,530 --> 01:39:42,020 right a stack and I am constantly 2226 01:39:47,330 --> 01:39:45,540 randomly pulling one out and opening it 2227 01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:47,340 up and reading a chapter right I do it 2228 01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:49,739 all the time it's it's fascinating and 2229 01:39:56,930 --> 01:39:52,880 so I did that with Michio Kaku last week 2230 01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:56,940 and uh I forget uh which which book and 2231 01:40:01,850 --> 01:39:59,280 when it was released I've got like five 2232 01:40:04,129 --> 01:40:01,860 or six of his books Paula I'll open it 2233 01:40:07,250 --> 01:40:04,139 up ah here and say okay let's go right 2234 01:40:10,490 --> 01:40:07,260 and and I'm reading it and I'm thinking 2235 01:40:11,649 --> 01:40:10,500 to myself I am reading an ayahuasca 2236 01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:11,659 ceremony 2237 01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:15,600 this guy and he doesn't even realize it 2238 01:40:22,189 --> 01:40:19,920 right where he is literally he's not the 2239 01:40:24,669 --> 01:40:22,199 only one 2240 01:40:29,570 --> 01:40:24,679 telling the world 2241 01:40:32,930 --> 01:40:29,580 of uh multiverses and and and and and 2242 01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:32,940 different realities and and parallel 2243 01:40:38,750 --> 01:40:36,900 worlds and the idea of dimensions and 2244 01:40:41,149 --> 01:40:38,760 how thick those dimensions are that 2245 01:40:43,729 --> 01:40:41,159 you're going to step through and if 2246 01:40:45,649 --> 01:40:43,739 weird you know not everything is you 2247 01:40:48,010 --> 01:40:45,659 know some dimensions are very narrow 2248 01:40:51,950 --> 01:40:48,020 right some are 2249 01:40:55,790 --> 01:40:51,960 microscopically narrow but things live 2250 01:40:58,729 --> 01:40:55,800 there right things exist and I'm reading 2251 01:41:01,149 --> 01:40:58,739 I'm just like this is this is this is a 2252 01:41:03,530 --> 01:41:01,159 Joe Rogan DMT trip 2253 01:41:06,830 --> 01:41:03,540 that he's talking about right here yeah 2254 01:41:09,649 --> 01:41:06,840 exactly so it is Reuben it's the same 2255 01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:09,659 language yeah 2256 01:41:15,050 --> 01:41:12,239 and and that's why I'm excited now that 2257 01:41:17,330 --> 01:41:15,060 we are entering this conversation you 2258 01:41:19,010 --> 01:41:17,340 know in in bridging these worlds because 2259 01:41:21,410 --> 01:41:19,020 now we can 2260 01:41:24,169 --> 01:41:21,420 you know all the so-called Superstition 2261 01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:24,179 that was that was always everything was 2262 01:41:27,649 --> 01:41:25,860 labeled that and put into the box the 2263 01:41:29,390 --> 01:41:27,659 crazy box and let's not look at it well 2264 01:41:31,010 --> 01:41:29,400 those are where all the greatest 2265 01:41:33,709 --> 01:41:31,020 breakthroughs are gonna happen in the 2266 01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:33,719 next uh you know Century uh as Nikola 2267 01:41:38,050 --> 01:41:36,480 Tesla said right uh if you 2268 01:41:43,250 --> 01:41:38,060 um 2269 01:41:44,990 --> 01:41:43,260 it's something to the fact of when when 2270 01:41:46,609 --> 01:41:45,000 scientists start looking at the 2271 01:41:48,649 --> 01:41:46,619 supernatural we'll have more 2272 01:41:49,370 --> 01:41:48,659 advancements 2273 01:41:54,550 --> 01:41:49,380 um 2274 01:41:57,950 --> 01:41:54,560 than uh ever you know uh Reuben 2275 01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:57,960 uh 10 years ago he comes over to my 2276 01:42:01,810 --> 01:41:58,920 house 2277 01:42:03,890 --> 01:42:01,820 and uh 2278 01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:03,900 it's my first time on your show that's 2279 01:42:08,450 --> 01:42:05,940 right yeah yeah so he's coming over to 2280 01:42:12,050 --> 01:42:08,460 be on Fade to Black and he gets dropped 2281 01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:12,060 off at my house and and he's got a 2282 01:42:19,010 --> 01:42:15,199 backpack and some luggage yeah 2283 01:42:20,810 --> 01:42:19,020 you know any any I said man what's going 2284 01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,820 on nothing nothing just got back from 2285 01:42:24,770 --> 01:42:23,280 the desert and I said okay all right you 2286 01:42:26,810 --> 01:42:24,780 could spend the night no I'm going home 2287 01:42:28,729 --> 01:42:26,820 I thought he was he was gonna crash at 2288 01:42:31,370 --> 01:42:28,739 my place for a couple of weeks that's 2289 01:42:33,770 --> 01:42:31,380 right uh and I go what were you doing 2290 01:42:38,030 --> 01:42:33,780 out there any good dude 2291 01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:38,040 ayahuasca ceremony I said what when it 2292 01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,169 and I said tell me about it and so what 2293 01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:47,040 do you what do you mean yeah man I was I 2294 01:42:52,970 --> 01:42:48,719 was out in the desert for five days with 2295 01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,980 the shaman and uh wow I mean yeah so so 2296 01:42:57,530 --> 01:42:55,679 Reuben walks the walk man 2297 01:42:59,570 --> 01:42:57,540 yeah I mean I have it it's been a minute 2298 01:43:01,550 --> 01:42:59,580 since I've been back in in the in the 2299 01:43:04,129 --> 01:43:01,560 field but yes for sure 2300 01:43:06,169 --> 01:43:04,139 um yeah Nikola Tesla he's famously said 2301 01:43:08,149 --> 01:43:06,179 the the day science begins to study 2302 01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,159 non-physical phenomena it will make more 2303 01:43:13,250 --> 01:43:10,800 progress in one decade 2304 01:43:16,010 --> 01:43:13,260 um so we're already doing it now we're 2305 01:43:18,830 --> 01:43:16,020 finally doing it but uh yeah I think 2306 01:43:21,109 --> 01:43:18,840 once we get once we get our Michio Kaku 2307 01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:21,119 to drink some Ayahuasca and then we'll 2308 01:43:27,850 --> 01:43:25,199 be on his face should I be I I want to 2309 01:43:31,550 --> 01:43:27,860 there's something inside of me that says 2310 01:43:34,250 --> 01:43:31,560 uh DMT is okay right 2311 01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:34,260 um uh Ayahuasca and the commitment to 2312 01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,920 that that I don't have I I don't I don't 2313 01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,840 have the time or the thing of the right 2314 01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:41,520 place the right things and I'm not going 2315 01:43:48,370 --> 01:43:45,960 to Ecuador and and right whatever but 2316 01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:48,380 um DMT 2317 01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:52,320 it sounds like the right thing for me 2318 01:43:57,050 --> 01:43:54,960 right 10 minutes in and out right or 2319 01:44:01,129 --> 01:43:57,060 whatever it is right 20 minutes and and 2320 01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:01,139 that that and and I I I I I will get to 2321 01:44:06,169 --> 01:44:03,600 have the experience 2322 01:44:07,250 --> 01:44:06,179 what I'm what I'm worried about is my 2323 01:44:09,709 --> 01:44:07,260 age 2324 01:44:12,189 --> 01:44:09,719 is is is it something that that I should 2325 01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:12,199 be afraid of your age 2326 01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:14,639 DMT at my age 2327 01:44:19,850 --> 01:44:17,040 what if I come back from that parallel 2328 01:44:21,709 --> 01:44:19,860 world what if I get what if I get stuck 2329 01:44:25,370 --> 01:44:21,719 with those two aliens sitting on a rock 2330 01:44:28,430 --> 01:44:25,380 you know I anything's possible but again 2331 01:44:30,290 --> 01:44:28,440 you know in any any type of uh scenario 2332 01:44:32,270 --> 01:44:30,300 like that whether it's Ayahuasca or DMT 2333 01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:32,280 or or any any 2334 01:44:37,729 --> 01:44:35,040 um uh mind altering substance right I 2335 01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:37,739 think um even in a meditation you know 2336 01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:39,600 what we're doing just talking about c5s 2337 01:44:44,990 --> 01:44:41,280 and breath work it all comes down to 2338 01:44:47,629 --> 01:44:45,000 intention and so as I think if you go in 2339 01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:47,639 with the right intention uh supervision 2340 01:44:53,149 --> 01:44:51,360 obviously uh always make sure uh set and 2341 01:44:56,090 --> 01:44:53,159 setting you know Terence McKenna that's 2342 01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:56,100 his favorite uh his his best advice is 2343 01:45:00,290 --> 01:44:58,080 set in setting 2344 01:45:02,810 --> 01:45:00,300 um and I I think you'll be fine I think 2345 01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:02,820 it's just uh it's just about ultimately 2346 01:45:10,430 --> 01:45:07,440 intention set and setting and and um 2347 01:45:13,609 --> 01:45:10,440 and discernment and due diligence 2348 01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:13,619 especially in this day and age of 2349 01:45:17,390 --> 01:45:15,840 um you know many in many of our 2350 01:45:19,550 --> 01:45:17,400 spiritual circles 2351 01:45:21,890 --> 01:45:19,560 Ayahuasca or DMT or any of this stuff 2352 01:45:25,250 --> 01:45:21,900 it's it's sort of dubbed uh the miracle 2353 01:45:28,430 --> 01:45:25,260 cure and in many ways it it can be but 2354 01:45:31,010 --> 01:45:28,440 there's so much misuse uh these days of 2355 01:45:32,810 --> 01:45:31,020 of these entheogens and and so it's not 2356 01:45:35,149 --> 01:45:32,820 a party drugs see that's the thing 2357 01:45:38,209 --> 01:45:35,159 definitely not a part of drug and and 2358 01:45:41,390 --> 01:45:38,219 it's definitely not a um something that 2359 01:45:44,330 --> 01:45:41,400 you can just you know there's a lot of 2360 01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:44,340 fly-by-night shamans that have been down 2361 01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:46,800 to Peru and hung out with the shamans 2362 01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,719 for a month or whatever and then they 2363 01:45:55,609 --> 01:45:50,880 think they're shamans and some of them 2364 01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:55,619 very May well be right again there's a 2365 01:46:02,030 --> 01:45:58,880 um there's a uh 2366 01:46:05,629 --> 01:46:02,040 responsibility uh that comes with that 2367 01:46:08,330 --> 01:46:05,639 work I mean and um and I've heard horror 2368 01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,340 stories especially in California 2369 01:46:12,770 --> 01:46:10,800 um where people have gone into 2370 01:46:14,689 --> 01:46:12,780 ceremonies thinking they were getting 2371 01:46:16,729 --> 01:46:14,699 this this supervision and healing and 2372 01:46:19,310 --> 01:46:16,739 then the so-called Shaman just leaves 2373 01:46:21,530 --> 01:46:19,320 them and just doesn't uh doesn't know 2374 01:46:24,649 --> 01:46:21,540 what to do that scares the crap out of 2375 01:46:26,530 --> 01:46:24,659 me yeah yeah yeah you know I you know 2376 01:46:29,870 --> 01:46:26,540 I've read the stories you know the the 2377 01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:29,880 six or eight fraternity Brothers you 2378 01:46:39,470 --> 01:46:32,639 know on a plane flying down to Peru 2379 01:46:44,770 --> 01:46:42,229 she will make sure 2380 01:46:49,570 --> 01:46:44,780 you have a bad experience 2381 01:46:56,450 --> 01:46:52,850 why are you here I'm here to party uh 2382 01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,460 yeah okay I'm gonna show you then yes 2383 01:47:03,649 --> 01:46:59,520 you're about to get slapped 2384 01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:03,659 um but uh but the the the point to all 2385 01:47:14,209 --> 01:47:10,260 of this is that to there is 2386 01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:14,219 um an infinite amount of stuff 2387 01:47:18,890 --> 01:47:16,560 to the left and to our right 2388 01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:18,900 it's to the infinite it's to the 2389 01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:20,639 infinite so 2390 01:47:25,609 --> 01:47:22,800 um when we talk about quantum computers 2391 01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:25,619 and qubits or 2392 01:47:31,609 --> 01:47:28,260 um uh other dimensions or the Multiverse 2393 01:47:35,410 --> 01:47:31,619 and you know that that the probability 2394 01:47:38,810 --> 01:47:35,420 of you doing something different exist 2395 01:47:43,010 --> 01:47:38,820 there are an infinite amount of Reuben 2396 01:47:46,689 --> 01:47:43,020 langdons to my right right every permit 2397 01:47:52,010 --> 01:47:46,699 to every version of you that could be 2398 01:47:55,790 --> 01:47:52,020 does exist right and and so to access 2399 01:47:58,010 --> 01:47:55,800 that I'm certainly ET understands that 2400 01:48:02,510 --> 01:47:58,020 um but we don't 2401 01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:02,520 we are just now I I am so impressed with 2402 01:48:08,030 --> 01:48:05,280 the human brain that we can take things 2403 01:48:10,609 --> 01:48:08,040 to ten digits and and figure it out 2404 01:48:13,129 --> 01:48:10,619 right that's that's you know 20 digits 2405 01:48:15,890 --> 01:48:13,139 and figured out that serious math and 2406 01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:15,900 that's what our brain can do and we 2407 01:48:21,770 --> 01:48:18,239 think about things at that level today 2408 01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,780 right it's it's it's it's insane that we 2409 01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,239 can do that but if we are going to jump 2410 01:48:30,590 --> 01:48:27,600 into this other side and grasp uh what 2411 01:48:32,169 --> 01:48:30,600 quantum physics is teaching us today I 2412 01:48:36,490 --> 01:48:32,179 think the Ancients were already there 2413 01:48:39,649 --> 01:48:36,500 and and let me ask you this 2414 01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:39,659 I think it's very important 2415 01:48:45,050 --> 01:48:42,239 the recipe I don't want to know the 2416 01:48:47,930 --> 01:48:45,060 recipe but the the recipe and the 2417 01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:47,940 components of 2418 01:48:55,090 --> 01:48:51,679 Ayahuasca and and how that is activated 2419 01:48:57,609 --> 01:48:55,100 is complex that is like real chemistry 2420 01:49:02,590 --> 01:48:57,619 real 2421 01:49:06,590 --> 01:49:02,600 it's just rare it's rare but my point is 2422 01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:06,600 a thousand years ago to come up with 2423 01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,820 well you know the root of this and this 2424 01:49:12,770 --> 01:49:11,040 and then this combines in your stomach 2425 01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:12,780 and then when this happens then this 2426 01:49:18,530 --> 01:49:14,880 will allow the acceptance this and then 2427 01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:18,540 sure sure that's that's insane yeah that 2428 01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:22,080 that does not come from an uneducated 2429 01:49:26,689 --> 01:49:23,520 mindset 2430 01:49:29,090 --> 01:49:26,699 that it's a it's very very very serious 2431 01:49:31,310 --> 01:49:29,100 complex thing and it's not a coincidence 2432 01:49:33,169 --> 01:49:31,320 you're not just mixing tree roots 2433 01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:33,179 together one day and ingesting 2434 01:49:38,330 --> 01:49:35,280 everything to see what you can activate 2435 01:49:41,149 --> 01:49:38,340 would would that is what is already in 2436 01:49:43,609 --> 01:49:41,159 your body that's crazy to me 2437 01:49:46,510 --> 01:49:43,619 well the The Legend is it's it's like 2438 01:49:49,790 --> 01:49:46,520 five thousand years ago was the 2439 01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,800 themselves the spirit of the plants uh 2440 01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:51,360 told 2441 01:49:57,169 --> 01:49:53,520 um uh you know the the 2442 01:49:59,330 --> 01:49:57,179 ayoscara the shaman which plants to um 2443 01:50:02,030 --> 01:49:59,340 to take in to do the the mixture and 2444 01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:02,040 cook it uh you know in at such lengths 2445 01:50:07,010 --> 01:50:05,520 so it was almost like the plants knew 2446 01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:07,020 that there was an intelligence in the 2447 01:50:10,970 --> 01:50:08,639 plants and that's what spoke to the 2448 01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:10,980 shaman is the way the shaman describes 2449 01:50:15,470 --> 01:50:12,000 it 2450 01:50:18,890 --> 01:50:15,480 um or the ioscaras uh of the Amazon 2451 01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:18,900 um so again it's kind of like that uh 2452 01:50:25,010 --> 01:50:21,360 the seeing the votes on the horizon kind 2453 01:50:26,510 --> 01:50:25,020 of thing you know it's do you what comes 2454 01:50:28,250 --> 01:50:26,520 first chicken in the egg you know you 2455 01:50:31,450 --> 01:50:28,260 get told by the 2456 01:50:33,950 --> 01:50:31,460 I don't know I don't question that story 2457 01:50:37,609 --> 01:50:33,960 I don't think it's mythology I don't 2458 01:50:41,149 --> 01:50:37,619 think it's folklore I don't know 2459 01:50:45,770 --> 01:50:41,159 all the tribes swear on that story now 2460 01:50:48,530 --> 01:50:45,780 can you describe you said Queen earlier 2461 01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:48,540 um can you describe her to me 2462 01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:51,840 to us Queen you mean grandmother yeah 2463 01:50:57,410 --> 01:50:53,760 grandmother I I said Queen all right 2464 01:51:00,530 --> 01:50:57,420 Mama she could be a queen 2465 01:51:02,629 --> 01:51:00,540 um so my understanding after interacting 2466 01:51:06,649 --> 01:51:02,639 with her several times 2467 01:51:09,590 --> 01:51:06,659 um is uh you know mother guy is her own 2468 01:51:13,669 --> 01:51:09,600 Consciousness she's her own uh as a we 2469 01:51:17,450 --> 01:51:13,679 see her as a planet but imagine 2470 01:51:19,070 --> 01:51:17,460 um all aspects including Humanity uh but 2471 01:51:21,609 --> 01:51:19,080 you know Humanity's not the only thing 2472 01:51:25,970 --> 01:51:21,619 on this planet we have trees we have 2473 01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:25,980 animals insects aliens 2474 01:51:30,350 --> 01:51:28,320 um in Earth beings you know who knows 2475 01:51:33,770 --> 01:51:30,360 what's all out there but the entire 2476 01:51:37,070 --> 01:51:33,780 Collective Consciousness and all of all 2477 01:51:40,450 --> 01:51:37,080 of the individual and Collective species 2478 01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:40,460 and beans plants animals rocks all of it 2479 01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:43,440 has a its own unique intelligence but 2480 01:51:47,229 --> 01:51:46,080 all that combined makes this giant 2481 01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,239 Consciousness 2482 01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:49,920 Mother Earth you know we we call her 2483 01:51:54,890 --> 01:51:52,320 mother earth uh it's interesting how in 2484 01:51:57,050 --> 01:51:54,900 our culture we still associate her as a 2485 01:51:59,810 --> 01:51:57,060 mother uh she's giving birth to all of 2486 01:52:02,570 --> 01:51:59,820 her children all of us life and even in 2487 01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,580 the indigenous cultures uh in South 2488 01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:04,800 Central and South America they also have 2489 01:52:10,490 --> 01:52:08,580 that Mama they call her Pacha Mama our 2490 01:52:13,729 --> 01:52:10,500 um our great our grand our great 2491 01:52:15,169 --> 01:52:13,739 grandmother because she's wise uh and 2492 01:52:19,370 --> 01:52:15,179 has all of this knowledge and 2493 01:52:20,930 --> 01:52:19,380 information and when we ingest this um 2494 01:52:23,090 --> 01:52:20,940 the medicine 2495 01:52:26,330 --> 01:52:23,100 then we make we make a more direct 2496 01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:26,340 connection to her and she can bring us 2497 01:52:30,770 --> 01:52:28,080 through because she's also a multi 2498 01:52:33,590 --> 01:52:30,780 multi-dimensional being we only see one 2499 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:33,600 aspect of her this physical you know uh 2500 01:52:39,229 --> 01:52:36,000 aspect but she's uh seventh density 2501 01:52:41,689 --> 01:52:39,239 being uh told to me by artist and Rob 2502 01:52:44,990 --> 01:52:41,699 gothier who you've had on the show 2503 01:52:47,450 --> 01:52:45,000 um she's a seventh density being and um 2504 01:52:49,490 --> 01:52:47,460 and has interactions with other E.T 2505 01:52:51,770 --> 01:52:49,500 civilizations all the time she's part of 2506 01:52:53,870 --> 01:52:51,780 a galactic Council that Consciousness 2507 01:52:56,689 --> 01:52:53,880 you know so 2508 01:52:57,790 --> 01:52:56,699 um we can interact with her through this 2509 01:53:01,490 --> 01:52:57,800 medicine 2510 01:53:03,530 --> 01:53:01,500 and uh and then she gives us 2511 01:53:06,290 --> 01:53:03,540 she shows us at least for me in my 2512 01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:06,300 experience she shows me how 2513 01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:10,560 um certain actions or certain uh paths 2514 01:53:15,530 --> 01:53:12,360 I've taken over my life has led to 2515 01:53:19,310 --> 01:53:15,540 certain circumstances and uh how certain 2516 01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:19,320 traumas that I may be hanging on to what 2517 01:53:22,729 --> 01:53:20,639 sort of 2518 01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:22,739 perspective shifts that I might be able 2519 01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:26,400 to do in my Waking Life can help resolve 2520 01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:28,080 those so I'm no longer hanging on to 2521 01:53:30,770 --> 01:53:29,520 those traumas because typically those 2522 01:53:34,189 --> 01:53:30,780 traumas 2523 01:53:35,930 --> 01:53:34,199 show up as if if in the beginning as 2524 01:53:37,850 --> 01:53:35,940 sort of an emotional pain but they do 2525 01:53:42,109 --> 01:53:37,860 manifest themselves as physical pain 2526 01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:42,119 like a torn ACL or you know a bummy or 2527 01:53:45,590 --> 01:53:43,440 you know these are physical injuries 2528 01:53:47,689 --> 01:53:45,600 that I got from stunts but grandmother 2529 01:53:50,090 --> 01:53:47,699 has showed me the reason they actually 2530 01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:50,100 happened uh 2531 01:53:53,810 --> 01:53:52,320 there is that physical accident thing 2532 01:53:55,370 --> 01:53:53,820 that happened but the whole reason the 2533 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:55,380 physical accident thing happened was 2534 01:54:00,830 --> 01:53:58,320 because of an emotional uh issue that I 2535 01:54:01,550 --> 01:54:00,840 still was not processing 2536 01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:01,560 um 2537 01:54:06,010 --> 01:54:04,800 fully so therefore the universe 2538 01:54:10,129 --> 01:54:06,020 grandmother 2539 01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,139 including created a situation where I 2540 01:54:14,890 --> 01:54:12,000 had an injury an accident or whatever 2541 01:54:18,410 --> 01:54:14,900 you want to call it a a a 2542 01:54:21,709 --> 01:54:18,420 synchronicity and then uh in that 2543 01:54:24,050 --> 01:54:21,719 healing of that and that elongated time 2544 01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,060 where I had to sit out and not be a 2545 01:54:28,129 --> 01:54:26,159 stunt man for you know several months or 2546 01:54:30,109 --> 01:54:28,139 whatever it was while I had to heal then 2547 01:54:33,410 --> 01:54:30,119 that was sort of my time out for not 2548 01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,420 processing my emotions so uh there you 2549 01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:35,280 go you have to process and even then I 2550 01:54:39,470 --> 01:54:37,199 didn't get the lesson until I got you 2551 01:54:42,109 --> 01:54:39,480 know until I had those ceremonies and I 2552 01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:42,119 was able to make those connections so I 2553 01:54:48,530 --> 01:54:45,199 know a long-winded answer but no that's 2554 01:54:51,709 --> 01:54:48,540 so intensely interesting do you get to 2555 01:54:54,770 --> 01:54:51,719 ask questions yeah all the time I go in 2556 01:54:57,950 --> 01:54:54,780 with questions and I have a list what's 2557 01:54:59,870 --> 01:54:57,960 the meaning of life did you get that one 2558 01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:59,880 I don't think I asked that to her 2559 01:55:01,790 --> 01:55:01,199 directly 2560 01:55:07,970 --> 01:55:01,800 um 2561 01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:07,980 well it's in it but uh so I would phrase 2562 01:55:11,330 --> 01:55:09,900 the question because I already know the 2563 01:55:13,310 --> 01:55:11,340 meaning to life is an individual 2564 01:55:15,649 --> 01:55:13,320 experience everybody's meaning is going 2565 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:15,659 to be different no it's not that's not 2566 01:55:20,209 --> 01:55:17,410 the meaning of life still overlight 2567 01:55:24,169 --> 01:55:20,219 [Laughter] 2568 01:55:26,689 --> 01:55:24,179 the meaning of life is Van Halen and 2569 01:55:27,770 --> 01:55:26,699 really good Chinese food like I said 2570 01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:27,780 it's going to be an individual 2571 01:55:36,410 --> 01:55:34,550 uh but yeah okay so write that down next 2572 01:55:37,729 --> 01:55:36,420 time I I just I want to know what her 2573 01:55:39,950 --> 01:55:37,739 answer is 2574 01:55:45,430 --> 01:55:39,960 it's not going to be your answer she's 2575 01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:49,609 it's not Van Halen Reuben it's Elvis you 2576 01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:51,920 got it all wrong 2577 01:55:56,570 --> 01:55:54,000 since we're on the subject actually I 2578 01:55:59,209 --> 01:55:56,580 want to share this and why and how this 2579 01:56:00,490 --> 01:55:59,219 is going to lead to the cruise 2580 01:56:04,850 --> 01:56:00,500 um 2581 01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,860 well done well played so I was I had 2582 01:56:09,229 --> 01:56:06,719 this was 2583 01:56:11,930 --> 01:56:09,239 this my last so second to last Ayahuasca 2584 01:56:14,450 --> 01:56:11,940 experience it was like in 2019 I wanted 2585 01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:14,460 to say yeah maybe 19. 2586 01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,119 um 2587 01:56:20,689 --> 01:56:18,000 so I had my question my basically my 2588 01:56:23,209 --> 01:56:20,699 main question my main uh uh intention 2589 01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:23,219 for the journey was grandmother show me 2590 01:56:26,570 --> 01:56:25,199 the history of of the human history the 2591 01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:26,580 true human history 2592 01:56:33,530 --> 01:56:29,520 I'm ready show it to me I can handle it 2593 01:56:34,910 --> 01:56:33,540 so uh you know we in the ceremony you 2594 01:56:37,250 --> 01:56:34,920 know we do our thing I drink my medicine 2595 01:56:40,370 --> 01:56:37,260 I'm sitting down I'm it's starting to 2596 01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:40,380 come on and uh and I'm you know I'm 2597 01:56:45,050 --> 01:56:43,679 starting to uh see stars and they're 2598 01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:45,060 starting to come into view and now it 2599 01:56:47,870 --> 01:56:46,260 looks like I'm traveling through space 2600 01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:47,880 and I'm like yes okay here we go I'm 2601 01:56:55,609 --> 01:56:50,280 gonna get to the answers and figure out 2602 01:56:58,010 --> 01:56:55,619 uh the true history of humanity and then 2603 01:56:59,810 --> 01:56:58,020 I feel like I'm flying through space and 2604 01:57:03,350 --> 01:56:59,820 I'm going really fast and the deer comes 2605 01:57:05,629 --> 01:57:03,360 and then a big metal door just goes 2606 01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:05,639 like a cartoon right and I'm like what 2607 01:57:10,129 --> 01:57:07,679 what does that mean and I asked that 2608 01:57:13,609 --> 01:57:10,139 what does that mean you are not ready to 2609 01:57:15,770 --> 01:57:13,619 know this now there is not a one-off 2610 01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:15,780 answer you have to experience it I'm 2611 01:57:19,609 --> 01:57:18,239 like what come on all right so I you 2612 01:57:21,649 --> 01:57:19,619 know I had to give up for then I had to 2613 01:57:23,209 --> 01:57:21,659 shift my intention I don't remember what 2614 01:57:26,750 --> 01:57:23,219 I did but 2615 01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,760 um but after that shortly after that I 2616 01:57:30,589 --> 01:57:28,560 stumbled upon this the skull project 2617 01:57:33,470 --> 01:57:30,599 that I keep talking about every time I'm 2618 01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:33,480 still working on it four years later but 2619 01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:35,119 um 2620 01:57:42,370 --> 01:57:37,920 four years ago Reuben goes so Jimmy now 2621 01:57:47,930 --> 01:57:44,689 crystal skulls you're all about the 2622 01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,940 crystal skulls Jimmy and and uh and dude 2623 01:57:52,250 --> 01:57:50,159 that was four years ago I know it's 2624 01:57:55,310 --> 01:57:52,260 crazy it's it's a it's turned into a 13 2625 01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:55,320 episode series it's huge I'm still 2626 01:58:01,149 --> 01:57:58,320 waiting for my contract maybe it's not 2627 01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:01,159 like buried in the email but okay 2628 01:58:09,229 --> 01:58:04,800 so it's happening I mean I'm getting 2629 01:58:11,810 --> 01:58:09,239 pieces the ayahuasca ceremony well well 2630 01:58:14,510 --> 01:58:11,820 essentially four years later now the 2631 01:58:16,430 --> 01:58:14,520 whole journey makes sense because if 2632 01:58:18,530 --> 01:58:16,440 whatever grandmother told me at that 2633 01:58:20,990 --> 01:58:18,540 time I may have had these preconceived 2634 01:58:24,350 --> 01:58:21,000 ideas of what the history of of the true 2635 01:58:26,390 --> 01:58:24,360 human history uh is was and I wouldn't 2636 01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:26,400 have this beautiful Journey that I've 2637 01:58:30,830 --> 01:58:28,560 been on that now I've been filming and I 2638 01:58:33,470 --> 01:58:30,840 get to tell through uh through this 2639 01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:33,480 series on what our true human history is 2640 01:58:39,410 --> 01:58:35,520 all about I'm gonna tell grandmother 2641 01:58:44,810 --> 01:58:42,169 well in my panel at the on the cruise is 2642 01:58:47,810 --> 01:58:46,550 new knowledge and discovering the 2643 01:58:49,490 --> 01:58:47,820 different things anyways going to 2644 01:58:52,189 --> 01:58:49,500 Atlantis and la Maria stuff so it's 2645 01:58:55,790 --> 01:58:52,199 going to be fun yeah yeah I uh I can't 2646 01:58:58,850 --> 01:58:55,800 wait for that the more you brought up 2647 01:59:01,870 --> 01:58:58,860 Gaia and uh we're at the end of the show 2648 01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:01,880 but I I've got to squeeze this in 2649 01:59:08,770 --> 01:59:05,760 so many of us and you look you can look 2650 01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:08,780 this is a fact it's like 2651 01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:11,520 95 of the world 2652 01:59:16,370 --> 01:59:14,159 has never been 10 miles away from their 2653 01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:16,380 home right it's like some crazy stat 2654 01:59:21,950 --> 01:59:17,360 right 2655 01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:21,960 and uh I'm exaggerating somewhat but but 2656 01:59:29,030 --> 01:59:26,639 um but they don't experience the world I 2657 01:59:30,890 --> 01:59:29,040 I you know and I wonder how many people 2658 01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:30,900 in the United States people talk about 2659 01:59:34,850 --> 01:59:33,119 traveling and vacations all the time how 2660 01:59:38,689 --> 01:59:34,860 many people in the United States have 2661 01:59:42,290 --> 01:59:38,699 actually left the United States Hawaii 2662 01:59:45,410 --> 01:59:42,300 doesn't count right Key West doesn't 2663 01:59:47,709 --> 01:59:45,420 count all right it's it's right out but 2664 01:59:51,950 --> 01:59:47,719 how many have actually left 2665 01:59:53,870 --> 01:59:51,960 once you once you you know go out and 2666 01:59:56,510 --> 01:59:53,880 and and explore the world and see them 2667 01:59:59,450 --> 01:59:56,520 you really start to comprehend and 2668 02:00:01,129 --> 01:59:59,460 understand that this planet is a living 2669 02:00:06,649 --> 02:00:01,139 breathing 2670 02:00:10,850 --> 02:00:06,659 single entity it's it's crazy it's it to 2671 02:00:15,530 --> 02:00:10,860 to see and experience that but this 2672 02:00:18,830 --> 02:00:15,540 planet truly is a a one thing and 2673 02:00:20,810 --> 02:00:18,840 somehow we've got to uh break down the 2674 02:00:23,470 --> 02:00:20,820 barriers and I know I sound like the 2675 02:00:26,930 --> 02:00:23,480 friggin Dalai Lama or something you know 2676 02:00:29,330 --> 02:00:26,940 and I just did no no I'm a rebel man 2677 02:00:31,970 --> 02:00:29,340 I'll punch somebody in the throat in a 2678 02:00:33,229 --> 02:00:31,980 second but 2679 02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:33,239 and then you'll hug them right after 2680 02:00:38,450 --> 02:00:35,760 yeah yeah 2681 02:00:40,370 --> 02:00:38,460 I don't I don't want to come across that 2682 02:00:42,169 --> 02:00:40,380 way I don't want to come across like I 2683 02:00:44,030 --> 02:00:42,179 wear bell bottoms and smell like 2684 02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:44,040 Patchouli you know I I don't want to be 2685 02:00:51,890 --> 02:00:47,760 that guy and I'm not that guy but we 2686 02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:51,900 have to figure out a way to quit friggin 2687 02:00:57,229 --> 02:00:54,960 killing each other and and these 2688 02:00:59,810 --> 02:00:57,239 differences because we're all the same 2689 02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,820 we are all the same you know and it just 2690 02:01:02,990 --> 02:01:01,679 says it that's how we figure it out I 2691 02:01:04,970 --> 02:01:03,000 think you've you just figured it out 2692 02:01:07,430 --> 02:01:04,980 once we it's just coming to the 2693 02:01:10,490 --> 02:01:07,440 realization that we are all one that we 2694 02:01:13,790 --> 02:01:10,500 are all interconnected we all can hold 2695 02:01:15,950 --> 02:01:13,800 our individual uniqueness and honor that 2696 02:01:18,169 --> 02:01:15,960 and then we can all 2697 02:01:19,609 --> 02:01:18,179 um you know be connected at the same 2698 02:01:20,750 --> 02:01:19,619 time just because we're different than 2699 02:01:22,209 --> 02:01:20,760 somebody doesn't mean we don't have to 2700 02:01:25,250 --> 02:01:22,219 be connected to them 2701 02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:25,260 no it it is 2702 02:01:30,770 --> 02:01:26,960 um to see 2703 02:01:32,510 --> 02:01:30,780 uh uh if you know you go to another city 2704 02:01:35,810 --> 02:01:32,520 here in the United States you know you 2705 02:01:38,990 --> 02:01:35,820 you know you go from LA to to Nashville 2706 02:01:42,109 --> 02:01:39,000 and and you see you know yeah okay yeah 2707 02:01:46,129 --> 02:01:42,119 you you get it it's Nashville it's 2708 02:01:47,450 --> 02:01:46,139 Chicago it's Miami it's it's not LA and 2709 02:01:49,850 --> 02:01:47,460 people have a different way of doing 2710 02:01:53,089 --> 02:01:49,860 things but we're still all humans 2711 02:01:55,189 --> 02:01:53,099 right and and and and yeah just taking 2712 02:01:58,910 --> 02:01:55,199 another step further you know and just 2713 02:02:01,070 --> 02:01:58,920 go and even if you do it just once and 2714 02:02:04,189 --> 02:02:01,080 you see how small this planet really 2715 02:02:06,649 --> 02:02:04,199 gets man it's it's it's it's it's just 2716 02:02:08,810 --> 02:02:06,659 something that is very beautiful and 2717 02:02:10,669 --> 02:02:08,820 we've got to figure out a way man I I 2718 02:02:12,169 --> 02:02:10,679 don't know how we're gonna do it you 2719 02:02:14,270 --> 02:02:12,179 still want to be able to punch somebody 2720 02:02:16,250 --> 02:02:14,280 in the throat though yeah yeah somebody 2721 02:02:17,570 --> 02:02:16,260 disrespects you absolutely you don't 2722 02:02:20,030 --> 02:02:17,580 want to do that you don't want to give 2723 02:02:23,149 --> 02:02:20,040 it all up no no no there's not giving 2724 02:02:26,030 --> 02:02:23,159 that up but you know they're they're um 2725 02:02:29,149 --> 02:02:26,040 for me I went I moved to Japan at the 2726 02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:29,159 age of 19 and it was the best thing I 2727 02:02:33,410 --> 02:02:31,199 ever did you know it it immediately 2728 02:02:35,750 --> 02:02:33,420 changed my world view I got to see 2729 02:02:37,250 --> 02:02:35,760 things through a different culture to 2730 02:02:38,510 --> 02:02:37,260 see the world through a different lens 2731 02:02:41,330 --> 02:02:38,520 you know different cultural lenses 2732 02:02:44,209 --> 02:02:41,340 different learning a new language it's 2733 02:02:47,570 --> 02:02:44,219 you're right traveling does really help 2734 02:02:50,209 --> 02:02:47,580 open your mind and your heart to um it 2735 02:02:53,030 --> 02:02:50,219 does it really does see the world yeah 2736 02:02:57,109 --> 02:02:53,040 yeah I'm not getting soft don't anybody 2737 02:03:02,089 --> 02:02:57,119 think I'm getting stuffed how 2738 02:03:04,250 --> 02:03:02,099 um how I I have uh listened I've watched 2739 02:03:06,649 --> 02:03:04,260 you and listened to you uh speak 2740 02:03:09,229 --> 02:03:06,659 Japanese with with a Japanese person 2741 02:03:12,050 --> 02:03:09,239 right somebody that'll call you on your 2742 02:03:14,270 --> 02:03:12,060 your BS if you're not and where you've 2743 02:03:15,470 --> 02:03:14,280 had these beautiful uh conversations you 2744 02:03:19,070 --> 02:03:15,480 know going back it's such a beautiful 2745 02:03:20,930 --> 02:03:19,080 language to listen to I love it but you 2746 02:03:24,890 --> 02:03:20,940 didn't you know it's not like you were 2747 02:03:27,290 --> 02:03:24,900 born uh into a Japanese family you know 2748 02:03:30,530 --> 02:03:27,300 how difficult was it to learn Japanese 2749 02:03:33,669 --> 02:03:30,540 at your level I mean you are a 2750 02:03:36,169 --> 02:03:33,679 conversational you're Japanese man 2751 02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:36,179 yeah yeah my that's what my wife would 2752 02:03:39,169 --> 02:03:37,199 say too 2753 02:03:42,589 --> 02:03:39,179 um yeah 2754 02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:42,599 let's see I think I was unique because I 2755 02:03:49,850 --> 02:03:45,780 I was so driven uh at a young age even 2756 02:03:51,950 --> 02:03:49,860 when I I um I remember I got kind of 2757 02:03:54,050 --> 02:03:51,960 weird looks because my my local high 2758 02:03:56,149 --> 02:03:54,060 school didn't offer Japanese they only 2759 02:03:58,910 --> 02:03:56,159 offered Spanish or French and I was so 2760 02:04:02,810 --> 02:03:58,920 hell-bent on learning Japanese that even 2761 02:04:05,149 --> 02:04:02,820 as a junior in high school uh I was able 2762 02:04:08,089 --> 02:04:05,159 to sign up at the local community 2763 02:04:09,530 --> 02:04:08,099 college for a Japanese class and the 2764 02:04:11,149 --> 02:04:09,540 professor was like you're still in high 2765 02:04:12,530 --> 02:04:11,159 school but okay it's whatever go ahead 2766 02:04:15,530 --> 02:04:12,540 you pay the money and you can join the 2767 02:04:18,109 --> 02:04:15,540 class so I was devoted I had started 2768 02:04:20,330 --> 02:04:18,119 learning uh on my own uh well through 2769 02:04:22,970 --> 02:04:20,340 the after the class I studied until I 2770 02:04:24,950 --> 02:04:22,980 got to Japan and then um I was pretty 2771 02:04:26,870 --> 02:04:24,960 fluent within about two years I could 2772 02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:26,880 get along pretty good 2773 02:04:31,850 --> 02:04:28,800 um but living there for for almost five 2774 02:04:33,649 --> 02:04:31,860 years and um continuing to go back and 2775 02:04:36,530 --> 02:04:33,659 forth through business and and now 2776 02:04:39,770 --> 02:04:36,540 Family yeah yeah cool so of course of 2777 02:04:43,430 --> 02:04:39,780 course I remember the first time 2778 02:04:45,490 --> 02:04:43,440 um uh I watched I was like 2779 02:04:49,070 --> 02:04:45,500 oh Reuben 2780 02:04:52,490 --> 02:04:49,080 holy crap man this is like you know and 2781 02:04:55,070 --> 02:04:52,500 uh to have uh I think he ran subtitles 2782 02:04:59,229 --> 02:04:55,080 right didn't you run subtitles oh on the 2783 02:05:05,330 --> 02:05:02,390 man I can't wait to see you uh next week 2784 02:05:07,850 --> 02:05:05,340 uh you're just a good friend you know I 2785 02:05:11,209 --> 02:05:07,860 love you to death I just continue to 2786 02:05:14,330 --> 02:05:11,219 research uh get this get this Crystal 2787 02:05:16,310 --> 02:05:14,340 Skull uh thing done 2788 02:05:19,010 --> 02:05:16,320 um I've been very excited about this for 2789 02:05:22,010 --> 02:05:19,020 a very long time and now all of your 2790 02:05:24,290 --> 02:05:22,020 websites um I've got everything up uh 2791 02:05:27,370 --> 02:05:24,300 we've got of course uh Reuben 2792 02:05:30,350 --> 02:05:27,380 langdon.com we've got uh 2793 02:05:33,770 --> 02:05:30,360 citizenhearing.org uh that is up yep and 2794 02:05:36,109 --> 02:05:33,780 uh interview with Ed Ed extra 2795 02:05:39,410 --> 02:05:36,119 dimensionals and uh is there anything 2796 02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:39,420 else uh yeah we have I actually just 2797 02:05:44,450 --> 02:05:41,280 started a new a new uh membership 2798 02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:44,460 platform on interview with ed.org and 2799 02:05:48,530 --> 02:05:47,040 it's pretty awesome we're we're doing uh 2800 02:05:49,910 --> 02:05:48,540 weekly 2801 02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:49,920 um interviews with channels just like 2802 02:05:55,609 --> 02:05:52,380 the show but we're doing it on on Zoom 2803 02:05:56,930 --> 02:05:55,619 calls and uh we're allowing members to 2804 02:05:58,970 --> 02:05:56,940 interact so it's not just me answering 2805 02:06:00,589 --> 02:05:58,980 the question means we get to kind of get 2806 02:06:03,169 --> 02:06:00,599 some new blood in there asking some good 2807 02:06:05,629 --> 02:06:03,179 stuff and uh it's it's fun we're 2808 02:06:07,129 --> 02:06:05,639 building a nice little community and we 2809 02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:07,139 get to be strange and weird and not have 2810 02:06:12,530 --> 02:06:09,540 to worry about uh the rest of the world 2811 02:06:14,990 --> 02:06:12,540 judging us I love that I love that I 2812 02:06:18,589 --> 02:06:15,000 love that all right so uh interview with 2813 02:06:21,709 --> 02:06:18,599 uh Ed interview with ed.org and the 2814 02:06:24,410 --> 02:06:21,719 links are below everybody Reuben safe 2815 02:06:26,629 --> 02:06:24,420 travels uh to the ship and I will see 2816 02:06:28,189 --> 02:06:26,639 you on the open ocean my friend all 2817 02:06:31,970 --> 02:06:28,199 right likewise thanks Jimmy appreciate 2818 02:06:35,390 --> 02:06:31,980 it the best Reuben Langdon everybody and 2819 02:06:37,729 --> 02:06:35,400 this is going to wrap up our week here 2820 02:06:41,689 --> 02:06:37,739 on Fade to Black I've got the peripod 2821 02:06:44,510 --> 02:06:41,699 festival uh this weekend uh so I've got 2822 02:06:47,330 --> 02:06:44,520 to prepare for that and get ready to go 2823 02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:47,340 tomorrow night uh so no show tomorrow 2824 02:06:52,490 --> 02:06:48,960 night I want everybody to have a great 2825 02:06:54,290 --> 02:06:52,500 safe fun amazing weekend 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